Red wine before food - experiment

[PSS]

In the interest of science, I have been looking into this and found the below on another site, interesting reading:

It depends a lot on how much alcohol one drinks.

Some people who have diabetes can safely drink moderate amounts of alcohol, but for others any amount of alcohol intake can have very negative health consequences.

Alcohol has a different effect in different people. Drinks such as Beer, some wines, and Alco Pops contain carbohydrates, and will make blood sugars go up while you’re drinking, but generally blood sugar will drop later.

The reason blood sugars drop later is due to the liver not being able to produce glucose (glycogen) that the body needs when blood sugars are low because it’s too busy processing the alcohol.
The liver is not very good at multi-tasking.

When blood sugar levels drop, the liver usually begins to produce glucose from stored carbohydrates to compensate. But drinking alcohol blocks the liver's ability to do this.
The liver treats alcohol as a toxin and works to rid the body of alcohol as quickly as possible. The liver will not produce glucose again until the alcohol has been processed and cleared from the body.

Normally, if you haven't eaten for a while, your body uses its liver stores of glucose (glycogen) for energy. In addition, alcohol can increase or prolong the action of your insulin or oral agents. In fact, the glucose-lowering action of alcohol can last 8 to 12 hours after you had your last drink.
Delayed low blood sugars (hypoglycemia) may occur up to 16 hours after heavy drinking. So if you overdo it, keep your blood glucose levels topped up with carbohydrate. After drinking, make sure you have carbohydrate before you go to bed and at breakfast, and monitor your blood glucose levels closely.

Exercise can also decrease blood sugar levels -- because the liver takes glucose from the blood and sends it to the muscles -- drinking immediately following exercise is likely to accelerate the blood sugar dropping process.

Spirits, which have a high alcohol concentration and little carbohydrate, can drive blood sugar levels down quickly and profoundly, especially when taken on an empty stomach.
The same advice applies to anyone whether they have diabetes or not – It’s not a good idea to drink alcohol on an empty stomach as the alcohol will be absorbed into your blood stream too quickly
Drinking for example a few beers will cause the blood sugar to go up a bit at first, although the overall effect will be for it to go down, so you need to eat before you drink, while you are drinking and afterwards. Having a couple of bags of crisps with your drinks and some cereal or toast when you get home isn’t any different from what your friends will be doing. Alcohol puts their blood sugars down too so they’ll be hungry as well.
Drinking 1 bottle of beer with your meal should be counted as part of the meal’s total carbs, and shouldn’t do anything towards lowering blood sugars.

I don’t know who to thank for this handy list, but some may find it helpful:
http://wiki.diabetesdaily.com/wiki/A..._Common_Drinks

I have also been given the same advice by the nurse at my surgery! I think you are absolutely correct in how liver processes the alcohol first.

 

[Nuthead]

The most important thing about any experiment is repeatability of the results. With this in mind, tonight and tomorrow night I plan to 're-run the ' Whisky and soda' experiment again. And again and again on Monday if necessary. ( I think it will be)

 

[Kezzer4321]

I'm with you on that nut head- I'll be repeating my tests this evening all in the name of science of course

 

[Denthezen]

There is no sugar in alcohol, shouldn't make any difference. Alcohol consumption for diabetics are the same guidelines as normal people, moderation.

 

[douglas99]

There is no sugar in alcohol, shouldn't make any difference. Alcohol consumption for diabetics are the same guidelines as normal people, moderation.

Whilst true, very few drinks are pure alcohol, it's the base syrup that the fermentation occurs from, or the flavours added at the final stages that do.

 

[JanetDavis69]

Hmmmmm. I'll stick with my box of merlot I think

Ok hun it's your body, you do what you want with it.

 

[alliebee]

I'm very good. I just allow myself a few glasses a week. Red wine seems to help my bs readings. But I've no idea why

 

[Bluetit1802]

I'm very good. I just allow myself a few glasses a week. Red wine seems to help my bs readings. But I've no idea why

Snap. I make sure I stay under the recommended units per week, but the wine does wonders for my BS and helps me maintain my weight amongst other good things.

 

[Nuthead]

I'm very good. I just allow myself a few glasses a week. Red wine seems to help my bs readings. But I've no idea why

It's a good excuse and your sticking to it !

 

[alliebee]

It's a good excuse and your sticking to it !

Ha ha. Oh yes indeedy! I'm very fond of Rioja too...and the medical research shows a small glass of wine daily can protect your heart too. So all in all its medicinal

 

[Nuthead]

Ha ha. Oh yes indeedy! I'm very fond of Rioja too...and the medical research shows a small glass of wine daily can protect your heart too. So all in all its medicinal

So is my shoch hic! And soda wot I'm drinking nowww...

 

[Kezzer4321]

if my fasting BS levels dont start to come down... I may need to skip the liquid lunch.. and start with red wine for breakfast :***:

 

[CollieBoy]

Ha ha. Oh yes indeedy! I'm very fond of Rioja too...and the medical research shows a small glass of wine daily can protect your heart too. So all in all its medicinal

Now try to get your GP to give you repeat prescriptions for 28 days worth of red wine (and lets see you get the pharmacist to fill that script)

 

[Nuthead]

Now try to get your GP to give you repeat prescriptions for 28 days worth of red wine (and lets see you get the pharmacist to fill that script)

Mass e- petition perhaps ??

 

[alliebee]

Now try to get your GP to give you repeat prescriptions for 28 days worth of red wine (and lets see you get the pharmacist to fill that script)

Be probably cheaper than the drugs I'm on lol

 

[Silver Hammer]

Red wine in Carbs and Cals is just 170 calories per 250 ml, or as I sometimes work it out 510 calories for a bottle! An occasional Sunday treat you understand, as once opened I wouldn't want it to go off!

Maxwell

 

[Kezzer4321]

I've just ordered a load of little bottles of red and dry white wine to play my part in this experiment It's going to be so hard, having been tee total for so long especially in the run up to xmas and with it being the hub's and my birthdays this week…… So hard!

Good luck dibbles... I hate red wine but even I'm drinking it in the name of science

 

[alliebee]

Ponders if it would reduce level after a high fasting hmmmmm. Hic! Morning

 

[Nuthead]

Ponders if it would reduce level after a high fasting hmmmmm. Hic! Morning

I like this thread ...........

 

[douglas99]

Red wine in Carbs and Cals is just 170 calories per 250 ml, or as I sometimes work it out 510 calories for a bottle! An occasional Sunday treat you understand, as once opened I wouldn't want it to go off!

Maxwell

It's more like 270 calories a glass, or 810 a bottle.