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Hi Kenny :)

I think I have one of those bodies that is not subject to gain or loose weight easily.

I forgot to mention that I take plenty of Chia deeds ground Linseed and Vitamin B12.

Your control sounds good and I do not know whats the best advice to give you with regard to weight.

I agree that my diet could be problematic over time, hence I treated it as a detox " if that's the correct word".

Thanks to this forum I am learning quite a lot, early days for me.


Thanks

Roy :)
 
Well done Roy on your latest test results, really pleased for you mate and sounds like the vegan diet is working a treat :thumbup:
 
phoenix said:
Without even thinking about carbs and fat and protein and calories, if you eat a whole food diet, most of this stuff takes care of itself. I'm fairly sure that the western diet of "processed carbs and fats" is what is underlying the diabetes epidemic........
Agree with the first bit Stephen not so certain about the next sentence. I think it would depend on who your recent ancestors were.( In my family, If they hadn't died in childbirth most of the women died around menopausal age and one GGGGF died in the workhouse 'of exhaustion.' doubt their diet was adequate in any respect)
On the other hand , there was supposed to be a diabetes epidemic in the 18th century, certainly amongst the rich; we don't know about the poor, they didn't have doctors.(Bach and some of the other composers may have had it) Some people even claim Henry VIII D.

You're right of course. There are many causal factors, I think that processed / refined foods is a key one, but it's obviously more complex than just that.

I do think that on an adequate diet of whole foods, the incidence of diabetes would be greatly reduced. But we've busted that Pandora's box open too long ago, to ever really go back (apart from loonies like me).
 
Interesting, I was veggie for 6 yrs and got diabetes. I now eat a bit of fish. I was eating lentils, beans etc then got my meter- not good, hence the fish. Don't like fish either.
So well done you on a vegan diet.
 
Phoenix, The good thing about this forum is diversity which leads to even more knowledge "good on you".

Roy. :)
 
borofergie said:
I think that what Roy is eating is about as fat from the NHS diet as what I eat (but in the opposite direction).

I don't know about the exact details of Roy's diet, but I bet his intake of refined carbohydrates is quite low. Although I tend to avoid them, fruits and tubers are much better sources of carbohydrate than flour and sugar. I don't know for sure, but I'd bet that Roy's food intake is a good example of a low-GI diet.

Just because low-carb works, it doesn't mean that it's the only metabolic regime that can be successful. Because he eats hardly any fat, and only small amounts of protein, it's also feasible that his body has adapted to burning carbohydrates more efficiently (in a similar way to a low-carber like me becomes "fat-adapted")..

I was in no way denigrating Roy's diet. I certainly know that their is more ways than one to approach a problem. My question to him was based on an answer that he gave to 'dawnmc' which was to the question of "What do you eat".

To which his reply was:

"Just simple foods like Porage, sweet potatoes ,green veg and salad, fruit, home made wholemeal break,wholemeal pasta and rice. canned beans in water and lemons and limes etc;"

As I indicated to him, many of the foods on that list would wreck my BG levels and wanted to know if they had spiked his levels when beginning his vegan regiment and then moderated over time. While some of those foods might be found on the Low GI list, many are not low GL and difficult for a good many people with diabetes to consume without large deviations in their blood sugar.

If in fact those foods did bother him to begin with and they later moderated and allowed for good blood glucose readings then one would have to surmise that the body healed in its ability to process the higher levels of glucose. If that is so then, as I said, that would point to a curative effect in his diet and would, at least in part, vindicate the NHS diet which recommends fruit, whole grains, pastas and rice.

I never had a problem with or doubted what he was doing, I was just trying to understand it. I take little for granted as to method but try to learn from everyone. While I have done relatively well since my diagnosis, I am a relative new comer to this condition and while I can speak with some authority as to my results over a very short period of time, I am ever mindful that what ever route we take in dealing with this condition could put us in a worse position than we were to started... It took me a long time to 'catch' diabetes and the results of what I do now could take a long time to manifest it self in a negative way in the future.

Kenny :thumbup:
 
KennyS said:
I was in no way denigrating Roy's diet. I certainly know that their is more ways than one to approach a problem. My question to him was based on an answer that he gave to 'dawnmc' which was to the question of "What do you eat".

I know you weren't dude :D . I agree with your questions, and I'm as interested in the answers as you are.
 
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