Reversed T2D

[annalaix]

Can you stick to just one cheat meal? Once in a blue moon is fine as long as you don't make it once a day!

Of course! I plan to have this one bread roll sandwich that I love so much at my local bakery and that's all I'll ever have it again for like a year! That's if my BG won't spike too much of course

 

[Pipp]

I see. I guess that once In a blue moon it's okay for a small indulgence. I mean; one small "cheat" meal won't affect 3 months worth of meals, correct?

It is the term 'cheat' I find difficult. It suggests deception. Who would I be trying to deceive? Certainly not the nurse, who already despairs of me, as I tell her the truth. I.e. I am no longer following her advice on healthy eating. 'Cheating' is only really cheating myself, nobody else would be that bothered.
I don't like the term 'treat' where carb (aka junk) food is concerned. Why would I regard something that would ultimately cause me harm a treat? Really bugs me when nurse says its ok to have a treat a couple of times a week. When she means cake, chocolate or takeaway, all junk carb loaded.

But I digress. You, @annalaix are craving bread. So, if you are able to, and your meter will be your guide here, go ahead. Have the bread. Don't let the craving linger. Eat bread, craving conquered. Perhaps. For me, and I suspect others, the problem would be that the carbs I no longer crave, once taken become addictive.

 

[Bluetit1802]

I can't live without bread, either. I buy the Lidl high protein rolls. They are packed with seeds, triangular, and dark brown in colour, and look disgusting. But my word they are delicious toasted with lots of butter. I only need half a roll because they are dense and very filling. Total carbs in half a roll about 4 or 5g. The other good news is they are only 29p a roll. If you have a Lidl near you, do try them. They satisfy my bread cravings and do very little to my BS levels.

 

[JohnEGreen]

They are packed with seeds, triangular, and dark brown in colour, and look disgusting. But my word they are delicious toasted with lots of butter.

I some times put a slice of ham and some soft cheese in one a put it in the microwave for 30 seconds or so very nice.

annalaix It's your diabetes so your responsibility to control you do not need our or anybody elses permission to eat things that you know will probably do you some harm if you want to go out and have a meal then it is up to you to decide if you are willing to accept the consequences if there are any. But if you do it once chances are you will do it again like an alcoholic vary rarely stops at just one drink and carbs and sugar are an addiction.

John

 

[SunnyExpat]

I think the overarching line of inquiry in your thread is excellent, it looks like you appreciate having choice in your life. Me too.

Around about 14 / 15 years ago I didn't give up binge drinking.

Since then I have very, very rarely had more than a few pints or glasses of wine at a time. That's because I made a decision to choose when, where and with whom I would indulge in drinking. Not out of mindless habit like some dog dribbling all over the place at the first sign of a reward stimulus. I trusted myself to make sensible choices and the trust paid off.

Around about a decade ago I didn't give up smoking.

Since then I've probably smoked less than 50 cigarettes. This is because I made an agreement with myself that I would choose only to smoke when I really wanted to. Not out of mindless habit like some dog dribbling all over the place at the first sign of a reward stimulus. I trusted myself to make sensible choices and the trust paid off.

Recently I have chosen not to give up my favourite foods, I've decided to trust myself to make sensible choices about what I eat.

Long live choice

I agree with you entirely here.
I personally don't need to eat carbs, once I retrained myself to show restraint, I can now eat a decent meal, but then won't go mad and devour every carb I see.
So, whether it's a treat, a cheat, or simply as you say, a sensible choice to enjoy a meal that I am now capable of eating, I'm not suddenly going to put back all the weight I lost, and un-reverse my diabetes.

As a matter of interest, did you immediately start on a LCHF diet, or did you go for a low calorie diet initially?

 

[annalaix]

I can't live without bread, either. I buy the Lidl high protein rolls. They are packed with seeds, triangular, and dark brown in colour, and look disgusting. But my word they are delicious toasted with lots of butter. I only need half a roll because they are dense and very filling. Total carbs in half a roll about 4 or 5g. The other good news is they are only 29p a roll. If you have a Lidl near you, do try them. They satisfy my bread cravings and do very little to my BS levels.

Sounds amazing! I just love bread in general and things like wraps and other flour based carbs! So glad they make wholemeal versions of these things. I really love Vietnamese bread rolls and that's what I've been craving since I've been diagnosed! And no, I live in Australia so we don't have Lidl!

 

[annalaix]

I think the overarching line of inquiry in your thread is excellent, it looks like you appreciate having choice in your life. Me too.

Around about 14 / 15 years ago I didn't give up binge drinking.

Since then I have very, very rarely had more than a few pints or glasses of wine at a time. That's because I made a decision to choose when, where and with whom I would indulge in drinking. Not out of mindless habit like some dog dribbling all over the place at the first sign of a reward stimulus. I trusted myself to make sensible choices and the trust paid off.

Around about a decade ago I didn't give up smoking.

Since then I've probably smoked less than 50 cigarettes. This is because I made an agreement with myself that I would choose only to smoke when I really wanted to. Not out of mindless habit like some dog dribbling all over the place at the first sign of a reward stimulus. I trusted myself to make sensible choices and the trust paid off.

Recently I have chosen not to give up my favourite foods, I've decided to trust myself to make sensible choices about what I eat.

Long live choice

Yes! I love living like this, really. It makes me feel better about my choices and what I put into my body. I guess it's just overwhelming sometimes when I do get to go out and eat with friends and families on occasions but I try not to let it bother me too much. And I'm grateful I'm a girl who loves her meat

And that is such a significant improvement. Congratulations to you! By starting this thread I'm glad I can feel a little reassurance and support from others. Small changes make the biggest difference, correct?

Good luck to you, friend!

 

[annalaix]

I some times put a slice of ham and some soft cheese in one a put it in the microwave for 30 seconds or so very nice.

annalaix It's your diabetes so your responsibility to control you do not need our or anybody elses permission to eat things that you know will probably do you some harm if you want to go out and have a meal then it is up to you to decide if you are willing to accept the consequences if there are any. But if you do it once chances are you will do it again like an alcoholic vary rarely stops at just one drink and carbs and sugar are an addiction.

John

Thank you, John. I will keep that in mind. Maybe I'll just limit myself and split up the portions if I ever feel like indulging into something.
Guilt kind of puts me off the urges! Which is good in a sense hehe

 

[annalaix]

It is the term 'cheat' I find difficult. It suggests deception. Who would I be trying to deceive? Certainly not the nurse, who already despairs of me, as I tell her the truth. I.e. I am no longer following her advice on healthy eating. 'Cheating' is only really cheating myself, nobody else would be that bothered.
I don't like the term 'treat' where carb (aka junk) food is concerned. Why would I regard something that would ultimately cause me harm a treat? Really bugs me when nurse says its ok to have a treat a couple of times a week. When she means cake, chocolate or takeaway, all junk carb loaded.

But I digress. You, @annalaix are craving bread. So, if you are able to, and your meter will be your guide here, go ahead. Have the bread. Don't let the craving linger. Eat bread, craving conquered. Perhaps. For me, and I suspect others, the problem would be that the carbs I no longer crave, once taken become addictive.

I guess it's just from the perception of the person. A treat meaning something you enjoy but something that could ultimately affect you. This is interesting, indeed and I agree with you.

And yes, I probably will try and eat half a portion and test my BG afterwards. I don't crave carbs often and guilt kind of edges me off becoming addicted.