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Reversing Diabetes Online Summit

Discussion in 'Type 2 Diabetes' started by Indy51, Mar 26, 2014.

  1. Indy51

    Indy51 Type 2 · Expert

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    For what it's worth, some of the speakers on this Summit that I've heard before and got useful information from, top of the list would be:

    Jenny Ruhl, author of Blood Sugar 101 and the website of the same name - it's been my bible since diagnosis
    Dr Ron Rosedale MD - well known LCHF researcher with extensive clinical experience with diabetes, especially in India
    Dr David Perlmutter MD - neurologist and author of "Grain Brain"
    Dr Mark Hyman MD - author and real food advocate
    Dr Mark Houston MD - cardiologist - he will shock you with the stats on CVD in teenagers!
    Suzy Cohen (Pharmacist) and Sayer Ji - these two are experts on nutritional/medicinal supplements and the research that's been done on them
    And of course Mark Sisson - one of the most rational voices in the Paleo/Primal real food movement - his website is a treasure trove of free content.

    If this summit works the way most of them do, from 4-6 speakers are scheduled per day and you normally have 24 hours to listen/watch the interviews. Whether you decide to purchase the package is completely optional.
     
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    mine Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    sometimes i wonder, if people are not going to think positive and act. they might as well end their own lives before the big pharmaceutical and food company suck their money and blood dry.
     
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    mine Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    thanks but no thanks . the fact is we will always have glucose in our blood. i dun mind if others are calling me diabetic i just need to know that i am in control and not those who blindly believe in those medical report funded by some big firm and hospitals which only wants our money.

    now to the toxic thing, it is common in where i comes from and mostly by MLM companies. those are a bunch of people trying very hard to sell concept like those greedy food companies.
     
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    kyrani99 Other · Well-Known Member

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    It is very foolish to stop testing yourself and getting medical tests by a doctor for at least two years after you see positive results and can come off medication. In my case I only gave up after two years seeing my BGs were normal and my doctor did test every six months for 3 years after and it was consistently normal and normal under ordinary circumstances, i.e., I ate what I liked. In your case it is different. You need to control your diabetes and stay healthy. .People are different. We can only share our experiences but look after ourselves in the best way for ourselves.
     
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    mine Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    each to his own mind. but i think its better to drop all medication early.
     
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    kyrani99 Other · Well-Known Member

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    "Each to his own mind" is right. But it is wrong to encourage others to give up medication before they are ready, is what I was saying. I have overcome my diabetes and not merely controlling it. But at the same time I took medication while I needed it and I kept up the vigil and tests for another 3 years to satisfy myself that I was well. I respect
    the decisions others make for themselves are their own and as is their right to make but at the same time I think we need to share our experience if it might help them.
     
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    mine Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    all medication are poisonous. i choose to bring down my bg in order to drop the medications long term.

    you can choose whatever you think its right.
     
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    Living-by-the-beach Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    @trotskyite

    Thanks for the link. I'm going print out this link and see what my doctor has to say about this.. One more question did you put any weight back on after completing your ND? I know you did mention that you'd gotten down to a BMI of 25 and stayed there then leaned up by a year of exercise. My BMI is now 23.8 down from 30 and I am still having issues..
     
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    trotskyite · Well-Known Member

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    If you haven't seen this it may give you more info for your gp:
    Normal weight individuals who develop Type 2 diabetes: the personal fat threshold
    http://www.clinsci.org/cs/128/0405/cs1280405.htm

    I think I put on a couple of kilos over a week, which I was expecting as glycogen stores increased again. But I actually lost more weight after that from 82 to down around 76kg, just watching calories and carbs. I am now 81kg but I definitely added mostly muscle and lost fat over that time as I am the same waist size I was at 76kg now and I had to buy new shirts cos I got bigger in the arms and chest, not like in the past when my belt was bursting lol.
    When I was working out a lot I was eating about 400g carbs per day but now I am trying to lose a bit of fat so I have dropped to 200g either way I never seem to go out of the normal range for blood glucose so I am very lucky/happy. As I said before I almost gave up hope on the diet as at 80kg I was still out of the normal fasting range. However I felt much better in myself one morning and decided to test again, after 6mths of not doing so, and was under 5 and that's where I've stayed. Also I have a viseral fat monitor and after the diet I was still at 14 which is high levels of vis fat. Now it has steadily gone down to 8 so I would say that is very much connected to bg levels going down.

    Remember also bmi is very inaccurate for individuals
    http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v10/n4/full/nm0404-325.html
     
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    Living-by-the-beach Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    @trotskyite

    Funnily enough I've lost 57lbs give or take a few and I still have a muffin top. I am getting lots of exercise and now planning meals where directly before or directly afterwards I am getting some very vigorous exercise. So I 'll cycle to lunch then continue on my cycle trip to bring the post meal glucose spike under completely control. Yup I too have leaned up enormously in the last 12 months. Yet my doctor seem completely under-whelmed even though he thought that I was in the top 1 percentile when it came to exercising! Go figure!! If my knees were in better shape I'd be throwing in an additional run or two in every week. Alas I can but get aggressive on my bicycle..

    We have to remember its a marathon not a sprint..
     
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    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    All medication is not poisonous. I hate to see the above type of statement being posted on forums, it is not true!!:mad::arghh:
     
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  12. Indy51

    Indy51 Type 2 · Expert

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    You seem to do lots of aerobic activity, but what about resistance/weight training and HIIT? Most exercise gurus these days say aerobic by itself is pretty useless for body fat reduction.
     
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    Living-by-the-beach Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I do work weights and HIIT sprints on a small hill locally the HIITs bring muscle buliding. I am confident that I've lost more fat & that I've put on muscle too. I do thank you for the concern and shortly I'll be living very close to my gym I'll probably opt for more weights & resistance training when I move houses..

    One more thing that I am now doing is exercising after meals directly. So I'll plan to exercise after eating lunch and then I'll go for a 30 minute walk after dinner.. That gave me a peaceful night of rest last night..
     
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  14. mine

    mine Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    almost all the medication i got has a label stating "poison". i asked my doctors and they said that almost if not all medication is poisonous in some extend. therefore they need to be labelled as poison.
     
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