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Rise In Rise In Type 2 Diabetes In Young People In England And Wales

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45224668

a rise from 507 to 715 in four years. no mention of if the age group has grown. More than three-quarters were also obese, according to the NHS data. However:

They show a rise in young people receiving care for the condition between 2013-14 and 2016-17, but they make up a tiny percentage of the total population of under-25s.

Almost half of those treated for type 2 diabetes in 2016-17 were black or Asian, the figures show. They were also more likely to be female and living in a deprived area.
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Kathryn Kirchner, clinical advisor at Diabetes UK, said one of the most important risk factors for type 2 diabetes was being overweight or obese,
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they are still getting cause and effect backwards. Doesnt this article clearly show the genetic effect of type 2 prevalence? and that the obesity is a symptom, not a cause?

Official data shows that one in five 10 and 11-year-olds is obese, and one in 10 four and five-year-olds is obese in England.
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so how can the main cause be obesity?
 
It is alarming. Obesity as cause or symptom is an important question to ask. As is what are the children eating? It always seems to be assumed that obese children are eating too many sweet and/or fatty things (drinks and food) and I daresay that will be true for some. No evidence though, not the proper empirical sort anyway. I hope that whoever is going to act on this doen't make any assumptions, that's not going to achieve anything.
 
I'll probably step on a few toe's here but here goes. I was obese and i am responsible for my own health. I'm not saying that is everyone, but i am not going to pretend it wasn't my fault, as it was. For others i cannot speak for them as this is my own personal opinion. Children as i have already stated in another thread about the responsibility of parents and their duty to their children as to what they feed them. As for genetics , Yes in many cases it may so, but i really have to say it's our own responsibility and we can blame no one really. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. But for me i already know i was responsible for my diabetes. I have read the threads about not feeling guilty and i don't, because it was a Godsend to have this diagnose as it made me responsible for my own health. Hope that clears up something for some people.:)
 
Makes me despair on the BBC site on the same page you have two main stories the rise in T2 among younger people linking it to obesity and another trying to undermine what is arguably the best solution the problem highlighted in the first story that is a low carb diet.
 
The story feeds into the moral panic over diabesity and all sorts of people with an opinion have jumped in from Dr Aseem Malhotra (the Eatwell plate is wrong!) through to someone bewailing the lack of school playing fields/reduction in Public Health spending. The main message is visual though; there have been lots of picture stories showing fat kids sat on sofas whilst playing on consoles and eating junk food/guzzling fizzy drinks but I doubt this story is the truth behind all the cases. But its fun to sneer at the silly poor peple who feed their kids junk food, sugary drinks and fail to make them run around the block afterwards.
Let's remember we are talking about only 700 cases, albeit these were hospital treated children and so that may be the tip of a big, sugary iceberg, whereas 20 years ago there were none (not sure where the 40% increase figures came from?).
Kids are not to blame either but I find it hard to blame parents in a moral sense.. For example we know that if a woman is pregnant whilst diabetic then she is giving her child a greater propensity to over produce insulin and lay down more fat as an adult. I feel very gulty about this in the case of my chubby 12 year old. Surely this increase in childhood diabesity is a reflection of poor metabolic health in mums plus the adoption of a higher carb diet which if the child is very unlucky will lead to an extreme results at a young age.
 
Moggely said:
But for me i already know i was responsible for my diabetes.
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I don't think you can be 100% sure of that. As has already been alluded to, is being overweight the cause or a symptom of intolerance to carbs followed by insulin resistance and producing more insulin to overcome the resistance. Who knows anything 100%.
 
I do agree with you about "Who knows anything 100%" @DavidGrahamJon. I just felt i was going in that direction and did nothing about it. I could be just hard on my self though. I did feel guilty at the beginning, but no longer waste time with negative feelings. I know now i can't tolerate carbs to a great degree but thank you for your input.
 
No. What's happening is children are starting to be tested for diabetes.... Unlike the 1970s, 80s, 90s, 00s and maybe 2010s too.

Shame I wasn't tested in the 70s. Maybe my weight problem would have been helped and with now IR awareness maybe a consultant who does for me now. Use his whole team to help me fight its effects.

I'm delighted these children have professional help, early on.
 
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