Rising blood sugar

davidob

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Hi I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes last year the doctor just told me as a matter of fact an put me on glilglzide and that was that
Lately my blood sugar is rising to 16 after food it's normaly 8 is this dangerous for me if so how would I go about sorting it out
 

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Hi and welcome to the forum Davidob.

Hopefully @daisy1 will be along shortly with her advice for new members of the forum.
 
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Lazybones

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We would need a little more information to go on. What is your B/G reading before eating, what are you eating (Carbohydrate content) and when are you testing after eating - Hourly or after 2 hours.
My initial thoughts are that a reading such as you mention needs to be avoided, your 2 hour readings should not exceed 10 mmol/L and ideally be much lower that this say 7-8 mmol/L.
If you can tell us more , we'll try our best to help you.
Hopefully Daisy1 will be along shortly with the standard advice given to all new diabetics, that will tell you much of what you need to know of the basics.
 
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zand

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Hi, welcome to the forum from me too :)

Can you think of any reason why your BG's have changed so dramatically? Have you maybe had an infection or been suffering from stress? Have you changed your diet to include more carbs perhaps?

I believe Gliclazide works by encouraging the pancreas to produce more insulin. It could be that your pancreas is now not responding to that drug very well.

Any extra info you can give us will help us to help you.
 

davidob

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Thanks for the reply
Before eating it's normaly in the 8 s and this morning I've had two sandwiches on whole meal bread of chicken and light mayo after an hour my blood sugar is 15 so I am wondering how dangerous it is
 

zand

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Thanks for the reply
Before eating it's normaly in the 8 s and this morning I've had two sandwiches on whole meal bread of chicken and light mayo after an hour my blood sugar is 15 so I am wondering how dangerous it is

It looks like your body is tolerating carbs less well than it used to. Many of us here prefer to see our levels to stay below 7.8. I agree with dannyw - the link he has provided is a good one.
 

davidob

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I have had pancreatic problems due to the fact I use to drink quite a lot due the fact I owned a bar in sold it six months ago how ever i still drink 7units a day i try to watch what I eat and go to the gym every day it just scares me when there high like that should I get the glilglzide increased
 

zand

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I'm not sure that increasing the Gliclazide will work. The drug works by stimulating the pancreas, it could be that yours is now tired and won't produce as much insulin now. Of course, that's something you can discuss with your doctor. I strongly recommend that you do whatever you can to improve your diet, but of course that's up to you. I have stopped drinking now as it's just a waste of my own self-imposed carb limit. Unfortunately we don't know what level of 'high' BG is too high for us personally until it's too late and complications have started.

You say you watch what you eat, bear in mind that it's total of all carbs that count, not just the total of sugars. Some HCP's say that wholemeal bread is good, but I can't manage to keep my BG's low if I eat it.
 

davidob

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I have only recently started watching what I eat before that my diet was bad i thought if I stayed away from sugar I'd be okay i will see what the doctor says tomorrow
Thanks for the reply
 

Daibell

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Hi. Yes, ensure you are having a low-carb diet. If this and tablets still don't control the blood sugar then a move to insulin may be needed. If you are still quite young and not overweight then late onset T1 (LADA) is always a possibility in which case inuslin may become relevant sooner or later. Increased Gliclazide may or may not help. I found full dose 320gm didn't help so moved thru sitagliptin to insulin.
 
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davidob

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I take 40ml twice a day i don't really want to go on insulin though :-(
 

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@davidob

Hello David and welcome to the forum :)

You have already had some good advice from members, and here is some more. This is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

davidob

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Does anyone know if you can take cinnamon tablets to improve blood sugar
 

uart

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Does anyone know if you can take cinnamon tablets to improve blood sugar
I've tried a few "magic" foods like that to lower blood sugar, and none were really effective for me. What has been effecttive however, is just following a good low carb diet.

BTW. Is there any reason that you really NEED seven alcoholic drinks per day? Seriously, cutting back there would be a great start. :)
 
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davidob

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Hahahaha not 7 drinks 7units wich is 2 pints but you are right and I will as I feel it's the drink that's doing it :-(
 

Daibell

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I take 40ml twice a day i don't really want to go on insulin though :-(
Hi. If you are overweight then the right diet should help you get back to a normal BMI and avoid insulin for a long time if ever. If you are slim but still have control problems then I'm afraid LADA is a possibility and insulin will probably be needed one day. Insulin isn't the problem that I feared and the nice thing is that you can have what you like to eat more often within bounds