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Self blood testing or not t2

Iancarnuts

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Grimsby, North East Lincolnshire, United Kingdom
Type of diabetes
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Tablets (oral)
Ok i am t2 and i drive coaches abroad for a living should i be doing self bg testing to monitoring my levels and which foods effect my levels to ensure i am safe to drive etc ?(on tablets) Also are these testers etc available on NHS .
Cheers
 
Yes, you should test. Whether or not they are available on prescription depends on current meds ( can they cause hypo's ) and how sympathetic your surgery is. Some get nothing, some get limited strips and a few have no problems at all. Well worthwhile asking . If not, lots of manufacturers will give the meters away as they make their money on the strips. Research cost of strips though.
Mo
 
Agree with others-do test as A: It covers you in the event of an accident as you're a professional driver by trade...B: It also tells you what foods are spiking your blood glucose levels higher than normal so you can then adjust your diet accordingly.
 
You should not go hypo on Metformin but it is a good idea to test to see how well you have your blood glucose under test.
 
Yes test, then test and test and test.......best tool in your diabetic arsenal imo.
 
Yes, test.

If you cant get a meter out of your GP you can still buy your own

Although some meter manufacturers will give you a meter for free the strips are pricey

the the SD Code free is the cheapest to run, with the testing strips about one third the price of others. Amazon have them at a good price.

Once you know what you are doing with food and medication you can test a little less.

Take note of the excellent advice Daisy gives to new members with regard to diet too
 
Does the company you work for have a policy for employees with diabetes? Would definitely be worth finding out what their advice is.
 
I agree, the meter is a great tool.
For instance, using the meter, I just noted that my BG went up tremendously after eating potatoes.
This spike will affect my weekly BG average, which my meter can calculate.
 
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Take note of the excellent advice Daisy gives to new members with regard to diet too

Hi lancarnuts and welcome to the forum
Here is the information which Cara mentioned which I think you will find useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 70,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
As a follow-up to last night's experiment with potatoes (startchy carbs), I want to say that I now realize how close I've come to a truly dangerous diabetic condition, so I'm very glad that I am dealing with my diabetes while its still in its "mild" state.
Using the meter, I saw that my BG had gone so high that ,a little more, and I would have been in the heart-failure range. This was from eating a large portion of broiled potatoes.

Fortunately, my GP had told me about six months ago that I was "pre-diabetic". When I started to feel really weird about a month ago, I asked for a blood test and I was deemed diabetic. So, now with having the meter, I know it is not my imagination that after eating certain foods I don't feel right, even the day after.

Today, after last night's episode( which I shall never do again!!!!), I still feel "hungover" and I am having trouble getting my numbers back down to where they were prior to the "experiment". I also feel more tired, irritable and short-tempered than I had been, very similar to an alcoholic hang-over. I am definitely craving sugar right now. This was all set-off by the high carbs I had last night.
 
There is no need to test before driving on your current meds. If your HbA1c is okay, your GP probably won't advise testing (it is painful, expensive and you can get obsessive about something you cannot do anything about).

I have tested to try to narrow down foods to avoid. The tests were inconclusive because I had already made lifestyle changes that have brought me well below the diagnostic thresholds for diabetes (almost normal glucose metabolism).

So test if you want to, not to worry about what your levels are, but to learn what different foods (and combinations) do to you.
 
Ok i am t2 and i drive coaches abroad for a living should i be doing self bg testing to monitoring my levels and which foods effect my levels to ensure i am safe to drive etc ?(on tablets) Also are these testers etc available on NHS .
Cheers

I'd say "TEST". How else will you know what's going on? If you use medication which can cause hypo, it's essential for everyone's safety and may well be a legal requirement in some countries.
If you don't use hypo causing medication, you run the risk of persistent high sugars which are a long-term danger to your own health.
I fund my own testing on my pension, by buying direct from a meter supplier. and no-one else's safety depends on me. [except I do drive about 6000 miles a year.]
Hana
 
After not eating for 20 hours i have got my blood glucose down to 6.1
im on 80mg gliclazide

wow, how cool is that!
Must feel good in all ways to be in a healthy range, lots of luck to you.
 
lol not for long ....had my dinner and BAM back up to 16.4

Have you looked into any of the food choices that have worked well for some of our members?
 
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