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Shivers, nausea, oh so tired-high bg?

Can I just ask if I'm testing too much? I test a lot(upon waking, before, 1 hour and 2 hours after meals and before bed)to see what I should /shouldn't eat. I posted on my local fb group, asking if our surgery prescribes lancets etc and someone commented with this:
"If you have type 2 diabetes your bloods are not temperamental to the diet you consume. Testing once per day two hours after the biggest meal of the day so give you a pretty good indication of your blood sugars. Type 2 diabetics are not particularly sensitive to stings which lower blood sugars but type 1’s are meaning they need to test more frequently to handle a better handle on their blood sugar levels. There is little clinical evidence that pre and post prandial testing of blood sugar levels results in better blood glucose control, that’s why the nhs does not encourage testing strips for type 2’s" so am I testing too much?!
 
cherrydarling_ said:
*hangs head in shame* I thought they would be bad not currently on meds, diagnosed Monday and seeing doc on tuesday. Bread and crisps are definitely my downfall
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Try protein bread and pork scratchings, instead. I know sounds mad but they both are better for some people's bgs. I love protein bread toasted. White bread takes me hours to process with insulin too. Chocolate causes me less problems. Any chocolate over 85% has far less problem to my bgs. Many find the same.
 
cherrydarling_ said:
Can I just ask if I'm testing too much? I test a lot(upon waking, before, 1 hour and 2 hours after meals and before bed)to see what I should /shouldn't eat. I posted on my local fb group, asking if our surgery prescribes lancets etc and someone commented with this:
"If you have type 2 diabetes your bloods are not temperamental to the diet you consume. Testing once per day two hours after the biggest meal of the day so give you a pretty good indication of your blood sugars. Type 2 diabetics are not particularly sensitive to stings which lower blood sugars but type 1’s are meaning they need to test more frequently to handle a better handle on their blood sugar levels. There is little clinical evidence that pre and post prandial testing of blood sugar levels results in better blood glucose control, that’s why the nhs does not encourage testing strips for type 2’s" so am I testing too much?!
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Goodness me, what an unenlightened reply on Facebook, and what a load of rubbish. :banghead:

Testing as that person suggests may give you some idea of how your blood sugars are doing, but it doesn't help you find a suitable diet for yourself, and finding a suitable diet is what we should all aim for as T2s. Diet is the key to control. Wrong diet = high blood sugars. That person is completely wrong. He/she is also wrong to say that is why the NHS doesn't encourage us to test. The reason is mostly financial. They don't want to pay for the strips.

If you just test 2 hours after your main meal, what have you learned? Nothing! Testing as you do you are learning which foods raise your blood sugar levels, and also which ones don't. This gives you the opportunity to change some of your foods. Unless you know what you were before you eat, you have no idea what that food has done because you don't know how high it raised you. Knowing you were for example 10 at the 2 hour mark is one thing, but what if you were 9 before you started? 10 isn't good, but the rise of only 1 is very good, so that food is OK for you. In the same example, if you were 5 when you started and 10 after, that rise is not at all good and that meal had some of your danger foods in it. How else would you know?

Then what about breakfasts and lunches? We also need to know what we should or shouldn't be eating at those times.

Once we have our glucose under reasonable control, and are familiar with our danger foods, we can relax our testing.

Having said all that, how often and when you test is entirely up to you and how you feel about it. If you want to reduce it a bit, you could cut out the 1 hour test until you are more familiar with what it means and how blood sugars work.

Does that help?
 
cherrydarling_ said:
Can I just ask if I'm testing too much? I test a lot(upon waking, before, 1 hour and 2 hours after meals and before bed)to see what I should /shouldn't eat. I posted on my local fb group, asking if our surgery prescribes lancets etc and someone commented with this:
"If you have type 2 diabetes your bloods are not temperamental to the diet you consume. Testing once per day two hours after the biggest meal of the day so give you a pretty good indication of your blood sugars. Type 2 diabetics are not particularly sensitive to stings which lower blood sugars but type 1’s are meaning they need to test more frequently to handle a better handle on their blood sugar levels. There is little clinical evidence that pre and post prandial testing of blood sugar levels results in better blood glucose control, that’s why the nhs does not encourage testing strips for type 2’s" so am I testing too much?!
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No.
I believe personally that a newly diagnosed type2 or type1 diabetic cannot test too much, however I used to fill my diabetes diary to see a bigger picture.
I constantly see room for Improvement in my own bgs. When that becomes obsessive I reduce my 7 tests.
Remember thou, I'm on insùlin therapy so I need to know as soon as I can of any imminent hypos.
We are all different.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Goodness me, what an unenlightened reply on Facebook, and what a load of rubbish. :banghead:

Testing as that person suggests may give you some idea of how your blood sugars are doing, but it doesn't help you find a suitable diet for yourself, and finding a suitable diet is what we should all aim for as T2s. Diet is the key to control. Wrong diet = high blood sugars. That person is completely wrong. He/she is also wrong to say that is why the NHS doesn't encourage us to test. The reason is mostly financial. They don't want to pay for the strips.

If you just test 2 hours after your main meal, what have you learned? Nothing! Testing as you do you are learning which foods raise your blood sugar levels, and also which ones don't. This gives you the opportunity to change some of your foods. Unless you know what you were before you eat, you have no idea what that food has done because you don't know how high it raised you. Knowing you were for example 10 at the 2 hour mark is one thing, but what if you were 9 before you started? 10 isn't good, but the rise of only 1 is very good, so that food is OK for you. In the same example, if you were 5 when you started and 10 after, that rise is not at all good and that meal had some of your danger foods in it. How else would you know?

Then what about breakfasts and lunches? We also need to know what we should or shouldn't be eating at those times.

Once we have our glucose under reasonable control, and are familiar with our danger foods, we can relax our testing.

Having said all that, how often and when you test is entirely up to you and how you feel about it. If you want to reduce it a bit, you could cut out the 1 hour test until you are more familiar with what it means and how blood sugars work.

Does that help?
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Thank you! I thought as much, but as only just diagnosed I couldn't be 100% sure. I shall keep turning my fingers into pin cushions :)
 
ickihun said:
Try protein bread and pork scratchings, instead. I know sounds mad but they both are better for some people's bgs. I love protein bread toasted. White bread takes me hours to process with insulin too. Chocolate causes me less problems. Any chocolate over 85% has far less problem to my bgs. Many find the same.
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I shall be shopping for protein bread tomorrow, as for pork scratchings :***::happy:
 
For the birthday party, shove all of the toppings of three big slices on one small slice and eat along with the kids! Take your time to learn the rest of managing diabetes. Or am I too late for your party?
 
it is easier on your fingers to use the sides of your fingertips, not the middle bits. And try to use different fingers too, a different one each time you test.
 
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