Show Me The Science!

[Oldvatr]

No way can anyone assume that the contents of his stomach is his ‘normal diet’.
So to suggest/claim/imply that a meal while mountaineering means that he ate like that all the time is unfounded.

Sanity at last!

 

[NoCrbs4Me]

" Both his high-fat diet and his genetic predisposition for cardiovascular disease [34] could have significantly contributed to the development of the arterial calcifications"

Could would might maybe what ever the cause he had clogged Arteries

And this was his diet

" the Iceman’s last meal was a well-balanced mix of carbohydrates, proteins, and lipids, perfectly adjusted to the energetic requirements of his high-altitude trekking."

This is what I was going by . https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(18)30703-6

And had not read your links previously.

Many people have genetic predispositions to conditions, can diet ameliorate this or will it exacerbate it ?

I'm confused - was his diet high fat or was it well balanced?

 

[NoCrbs4Me]

https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(18)30703-6

From the above paper: "A high saturated fats diet raises cholesterol levels in the blood.."

However, this is not true:

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2018/...t-cannot-raise-cholesterol-levels-ldl-levels/

Even Ancel Keys knew this in 1956: ‘In the adult man the serum cholesterol level is essentially independent of the cholesterol intake over the whole range of human diets.’

 

[NoCrbs4Me]

well didn´t everybody kind of get smoked back then, I guess they must have spent quite a couple of hours around the fire those days inhaling a lot of smoke maybe almost daily

According to the Daily Star - yes: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/140540/Otzi-the-iceman-had-smoker-s-lung

 

[Indy51]

well didn´t everybody kind of get smoked back then, I guess they must have spent quite a couple of hours around the fire those days inhaling a lot of smoke maybe almost daily

The studies done of the Inuit mummies (cold frozen like Otzi) showed similar results - the atherosclerosis was most present among the women who spent most of their time in shelters breathing oil smoke.

 

[nickm]

Great discussion people. Just keep ignoring all the evidence of what Oetzi’s usual diet was. And keep pretending that the power of research is directly related to the number of subjects. The mathematical equation which calculates research power must be wrong. And all that great research with subject numbers smaller than in Boo1979’s posts must be unreliable. Keep pretending that calcified arteries are clogged arteries. And keep pretending that your chosen media sources are reliable.

 

[JohnEGreen]

Keep pretending that calcified arteries are clogged

Clog
cause something to) become blocked or filled so that movement or activity is difficult:

Where in lies the pretense

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[Guzzler]

Great discussion people. Just keep ignoring all the evidence of what Oetzi’s usual diet was. And keep pretending that the power of research is directly related to the number of subjects. The mathematical equation which calculates research power must be wrong. And all that great research with subject numbers smaller than in Boo1979’s posts must be unreliable. Keep pretending that calcified arteries are clogged arteries. And keep pretending that your chosen media sources are reliable.

Better to add to a discussion rather than detract from debate.

 

[Oldvatr]

Great discussion people. Just keep ignoring all the evidence of what Oetzi’s usual diet was. And keep pretending that the power of research is directly related to the number of subjects. The mathematical equation which calculates research power must be wrong. And all that great research with subject numbers smaller than in Boo1979’s posts must be unreliable. Keep pretending that calcified arteries are clogged arteries. And keep pretending that your chosen media sources are reliable.

Welcome to the Millenium way of thinking. You describe my children's behaviour to a T.