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Prediabetes Six months on and still so confused, whingefest

SlimLizzy said:
You are right, its the neverendingness of it. Each new season brings new grief. Mince pies? Ok, never really liked those anyway. no big deal. This time its hot cross buns. Now those I love, but they must be the real thing, some versions omit the spices. How cheapskates can you get? I love them, smothered, or dripping in butter. Must work out how to fit one in now and again. Or I will be feeling deprived.
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Mince pies. An absolute favourite of mine. I only had four this last Christmas to try and keep a lid on the sugar intake.

One of my favourite school meal puddings was a slice of mince pie and custard. :D
 
Hi Slimlizzy, this popped up in my feed this morning and I thought of you. The dietitian covers LCHF and IBS from about the halfway way mark in the video (the first half is on LCHF for vegans). I hope it is of some use as there seem to be meal suggestions in there. I havn't viewed all of it.

 
A few splashes of milk? Maybe 4 grams of carbs worth in total, spread out over your day? (Just guesstimating and rounding up as I do so.) Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it. Just keep an eye on yourself. I realise it'll be a tough position as you're with people who want to feed you for weeks, but... Maybe you can tell them what's going on, that you're trying to find the right balance when it comes to eating to stay healthy. (And if at all possible, gain some weight!). My family didn't get it either at first, but we talked about it and now they're all supportive, especially seeing how this is working for me. But you've still got a bit to figure out. It takes a while, doesn't happen overnight: find out what is right for you. Mentally, physically... And ask their help, make them feel included maybe? (People tend to see us as hipster avocado-loving cult members that have been brainwashed when they don't understand what we're doing, haha. Explain the science behind it, and that'll often get better.). I just feel as a prediabetic, you don't have to go to the extremes someone who's full-fledged T2 sometimes has to, depending on how much their body's still functioning... I mean, I'm at 20 grams of carbs a day. But that's what's right for me. Take a breath, and see what's right for you.

It's all about balance. You'll get there.
 
Contralto said:
Dear Slim,

Scream all you want. There is a long standing scream thread on the forum. Just a couple things. Diabetes is a *****, no doubt. going on my 19th year of it, and a lot of that time I was getting the wrong advice. I am still alive and tomorrow is another day

Don't worry so much about the veggies, and even blue potatoes with enough fat won't kill you off, just don't have a plateful. Most everything that is related to a grain or bread you have to kiss off, however. Some fruits, however, are not as bad as others. So, I always have a big bag of these amazing Canadian wild blueberries that are very tiny in my freezer. I will nuke a half cup of them and put them in kefir or yoghurt

There are foods that won't spike you that fall in the category of stuff we forget to eat and seldom have. One of these is mushrooms and there is a whole world of them out there. Quickest way to a cooked mushroom is a microwave.

Similarly, you can look for four ingredients videos. There are four ingredients cookbooks. You can even cook foods in languages you don't know by watching videos on the Youtube.

In general, I have yet to meet any endocrinologist or dietician or nurse giving me advice who has diabetes. Sometimes, healthcare professions think they are caring when actually they are just irritating you with impossible tasks like saying "I am going to expect you to get better control of your bloodsugars" while giving you the opposite advice to making that happen.It's because they aren't dealing with diabetes themselves and they are ignorant about the how once it gets past medication.

There are color charts over on DietDoctor that do things like show on one side of a char low carb nuts or veggies or whatever and on the other side the high carb one. Charts like that get your mindset into possibilities instead of the stuff you are going to.

I actually started feeling more positive about encountering a whole day full of no no when I found out for the first time that there are neutral meals like bacon and eggs and cheese.

You can have all the tea and coffee you want. Just, if you are going to dump something into it, make sure it is the high fat version, like cream instead of skim milk.

You will eventually get a whole vocabulary of things you can crave that are good for you. Here is an example of once you know it: Wash some bok choi and shake the water out. Put a couple tablespoons of roasted sesame oil into a frying pan and add the bok choi. When it wilts in a couple minutes, it is done. Add some mushrooms. Add some bits of some kind of meat. Kitchen scissors are my favorite cooking tool.
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Hello Contralto
Do like the sound of your cooking. yes, discovered mushrooms a few days ago, already onto eggs (getting a bit over-egged, if you know what i mean) and bacon. Cheese has been problematical, but tolerance for it is improving, athough its still easy to overdo it. Need to weigh it every time. Have started using leeks instead of onions. Celery in everything i can hid it in.
My preference is for semiskimmed milk. Whole milk and cream, in tea, just taste greasy to me.
People have been so kind and supportive, am feeling a lot better today.
 
JoKalsbeek said:
A few splashes of milk? Maybe 4 grams of carbs worth in total, spread out over your day? (Just guesstimating and rounding up as I do so.) Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it. Just keep an eye on yourself. I realise it'll be a tough position as you're with people who want to feed you for weeks, but... Maybe you can tell them what's going on, that you're trying to find the right balance when it comes to eating to stay healthy. (And if at all possible, gain some weight!). My family didn't get it either at first, but we talked about it and now they're all supportive, especially seeing how this is working for me. But you've still got a bit to figure out. It takes a while, doesn't happen overnight: find out what is right for you. Mentally, physically... And ask their help, make them feel included maybe? (People tend to see us as hipster avocado-loving cult members that have been brainwashed when they don't understand what we're doing, haha. Explain the science behind it, and that'll often get better.). I just feel as a prediabetic, you don't have to go to the extremes someone who's full-fledged T2 sometimes has to, depending on how much their body's still functioning... I mean, I'm at 20 grams of carbs a day. But that's what's right for me. Take a breath, and see what's right for you.

It's all about balance. You'll get there.
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Avocados have been a long time NO food for me. Maybe its time to see if they are better tolerated now.
 
Out of interest why do you need to weigh cheese? I’d say unless it upsets you then no need to limit it and then if it does cause tummy issues I’d be doing it by eye as good enough with no need to faff with scales. But then I’m a no faff cook at the best of times.
 
One of the foods my GP recommended the other week during the very brief 30 seconds he devoted to diet, was avocado. However I am not an avocado type person. My wife eats them mashed up with milk but adds sugar to the mix. :banghead:
 
HSSS said:
Out of interest why do you need to weigh cheese? I’d say unless it upsets you then no need to limit it and then if it does cause tummy issues I’d be doing it by eye as good enough with no need to faff with scales. But then I’m a no faff cook at the best of times.
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Weighing cheese may actually be of some benefit to those who are sensitive to protein. I know that until very recently I had to be mindful of my cheese consumption. Personally I didn’t weigh it, but I was aware that overconsumption was suboptimal for me at that time. Insulin sensitivity is such now that it doesn’t appear to be a problem, but it’s certainly something to be aware of as a possible point of focus for some :)
 
Jim Lahey said:
Weighing cheese may actually be of some benefit to those who are sensitive to protein. I know that until very recently I had to be mindful of my cheese consumption. Personally I didn’t weigh it, but I was aware that overconsumption was suboptimal for me at that time. Insulin sensitivity is such now that it doesn’t appear to be a problem, but it’s certainly something to be aware of as a possible point of focus for some :)
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@HSSS Cheese did upset me, the fat content being the problem. Weighing cheese helps me increase the portion by tiny amount at a time. Seems to be working
 
Listlad said:
One of the foods my GP recommended the other week during the very brief 30 seconds he devoted to diet, was avocado. However I am not an avocado type person. My wife eats them mashed up with milk but adds sugar to the mix. :banghead:
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@Listlad. Dont enjoy avocado either. Although sometimes, in a salad, with mozzerella, tomatoes and basil, small amount can be ok. Another issue is the very high fat content. Same as with cheese, really easy to overdose and end up regretting it. Something else to work on.
 
Guzzler said:
Hi Slimlizzy, this popped up in my feed this morning and I thought of you. The dietitian covers LCHF and IBS from about the halfway way mark in the video (the first half is on LCHF for vegans). I hope it is of some use as there seem to be meal suggestions in there. I havn't viewed all of it.

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@Listlad, will view later, if thats ok? not at home so no place to save things.
 
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