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Skipping Breakfast

I think skipping breakfast is harder for people who eat more carbs, and easier for those who are overweight and on a "ketogenic" diet. The latter are breakfasting off their own personal supply of calories and have no need to ingest more.
 
I think you may be underestimating human resilience - you do not need to be overweight to survive an 8h fast (20-30% body fat is considered healthy)
 
Having diabetes can be quite fascinating. I'm amazed at the difference a slice of bread makes to my blood sugar, or a bit of extra stress or exercise. Personally, I think everyone should own a blood sugar monitor just for the sheer fun of knowing what the effects of certain activities and foods have on our blood. Maybe that's the answer to preventing diabetes - just 1 month of blood testing every day certainly makes me think about what food I put in my mouth and at what times. :)
 
CathyN said:
Most important meal of the day!!

Almond porridge with soy milk ??? It takes seconds to make. is incredibly low carb but high on filling you up. Keeps me going till lunch :)
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Can you tell me how you make it, I use soy milk anyway but how do you make almond porridge?
 
Always have brekky. It is called breakfast for a reason ....It breaks the fast! It is important for the body and brain. If I didnt have it before I was diabetic I would notice a big difference and would faint occasionally. Obviously it is a must as a T1 as you have to eat and have to have some insulin.

Everyone to thier own though I suppose.

Lucy xxx
 
Hi AM Brennan,

So why if I dont eat and therefore dont take any insulin do my sugars rocket?

Is it an individual thing? or should I be able to skip meals? I am aware that with carb counting you should be able to do it. For me though I am not sure? I am interested as how this would work?

Lucy xxx
 
Well, that largely depends on your insulin regime. With basal bolus or an insulin pump, you should be able to skip a meal without any ill effect if you don't take any fast acting insulin (Humalog, Novorapid). You would just take your basal insulin (Lantus if you take it in the morning, or Levemir) as usual and this should keep BG steady if you have the right dose.

On other types of insulin (mixes), this will not be possible. This is why your statement is incorrect - it's may be necessary for some people to have breakfast but not all.

If you, specifically (T1 on Levemir and Novorapid), were to skip a meal and the Novorapid for that meal, I would not expect a significant rise (or fall) in BG. In fact, if there was a significant change that would suggest that your basal dose is not quite right.

If you feel better eating breakfast and regular meals, then by all means do that. I'm not saying that you should skip meals.
 
You would just take your basal insulin (Lantus if you take it in the morning, or Levemir) as usual and this should keep BG steady if you have the right dose.
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The fasting in the morning test doesn't work for me. If I fast then my glucose rises. I
I have no problems missing or delaying lunch or dinner but my levels will start rising from the time I get up and the longer I delay breakfast , the more my glucose levels rise.This works well if I'm going to have a fasting blood test ,my breakfast will be delayed my a couple of hours and my glucose will only rise a couple of mmol/l.
At it's worst if I miss it entirely it can cause very high levels. I reached one of my highest post diagnosis levels when we left early on a car journey and I didn't get breakfast until about 10.30am, (probably extra stress hormones thrown in :it rose to 16+ mmol/l)
With a pump, I could set a higher basal rate until I ate breakfast but the time this adjustment was made would vary from day to day depending on when I actually got up. I would then have to adjusts my rates later in the day. This sort of daily alteration would be a faff on a pump and impossible on MDI. It's easier to eat some breakfast.
 
That's why I said "should" to allow for the possibility of the basal not working for perfectly for some people. I very nearly included a line in my previous post to make this (more) explicit.
 
phoenix said:
You would just take your basal insulin (Lantus if you take it in the morning, or Levemir) as usual and this should keep BG steady if you have the right dose.
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The fasting in the morning test doesn't work for me. If I fast then my glucose rises. I
I have no problems missing or delaying lunch or dinner but my levels will start rising from the time I get up and the longer I delay breakfast , the more my glucose levels rise.This works well if I'm going to have a fasting blood test ,my breakfast will be delayed my a couple of hours and my glucose will only rise a couple of mmol/l.
At it's worst if I miss it entirely it can cause very high levels. I reached one of my highest post diagnosis levels when we left early on a car journey and I didn't get breakfast until about 10.30am, (probably extra stress hormones thrown in :it rose to 16+ mmol/l)
With a pump, I could set a higher basal rate until I ate breakfast but the time this adjustment was made would vary from day to day depending on when I actually got up. I would then have to adjusts my rates later in the day. This sort of daily alteration would be a faff on a pump and impossible on MDI. It's easier to eat some breakfast.
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Thanks for the explaination AMBrennan, apologies as what I said was incorrect. I am more in line with Pheonix on this one and would prefer to eat breakfast than none.

My Basal in the best its been and my sugars are finally coming in line. Dont think that I would function very well at all without breakfast.

Lucy xxx
 
shop said:
Dont think that I would function very well at all without breakfast.
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Nor me Lucy, due fasting bloods to be taken next week and it will be straight home for breakfast :)
 
noblehead said:
shop said:
Dont think that I would function very well at all without breakfast.
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Nor me Lucy, due fasting bloods to be taken next week and it will be straight home for breakfast :)
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Me too Nigel,

The week after,I am having to go to the hosp for bloods as my surgery couldnt fit me in so early in the morning ( I did try 3 weeks before they were due :roll: ) So I am due at the hosp for 8.30 I also have a Physio appt at 9.45, the physio lady who booked my appt was fantastic as I told her I had 4 appts at the hospital in 1 week Bloods, Physio, Dietician and Consultant. She was brilliant she made the appt so I could have my bloods done have my b/fast and insulin and then see her ( even told me where everything was :D )

Hope it goes Ok :thumbup:

Lucy xxx
 
shop said:
The week after,I am having to go to the hosp for bloods as my surgery couldnt fit me in so early in the morning ( I did try 3 weeks before they were due :roll: ) So I am due at the hosp for 8.30 I also have a Physio appt at 9.45, the physio lady who booked my appt was fantastic as I told her I had 4 appts at the hospital in 1 week Bloods, Physio, Dietician and Consultant. She was brilliant she made the appt so I could have my bloods done have my b/fast and insulin and then see her ( even told me where everything was :D ):
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Hope they all go well for you Lucy :)
 
noblehead said:
shop said:
The week after,I am having to go to the hosp for bloods as my surgery couldnt fit me in so early in the morning ( I did try 3 weeks before they were due :roll: ) So I am due at the hosp for 8.30 I also have a Physio appt at 9.45, the physio lady who booked my appt was fantastic as I told her I had 4 appts at the hospital in 1 week Bloods, Physio, Dietician and Consultant. She was brilliant she made the appt so I could have my bloods done have my b/fast and insulin and then see her ( even told me where everything was :D ):
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Hope they all go well for you Lucy :)
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Thanks Nigel, hope yours do too :)
 
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