Sky High hba1C - Hopes & Fears

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Welcome @LeftPeg. Apologies if others have covered this (lots of great advice above) but an important thing to remember is that your blood cells only live about 2-3 months.
So if you stop piling them up with glucose now, all the new ones will be fine and the sugary ones will die off.
That won’t guarantee you get down to normal in 3 months but it might get you there and will definitely get you closer.
Your 100+ score now will be what makes you a headline making hero when you get this into remission.
Good luck. This site is full of answers to the many questions now and yet to come.
 

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Just wanted to add to the good luck chorus! Also, come on!! get back on your bike...if I can do it as a 62 yr old Grannie who hasn't ridden since I was a kid, so can you. In my case, I have an electric assist (super hilly terrain where I live) and for all the cycle purists who think it's "cheating" all I can say is that if it wasn't for the electric assist I would be on the couch. 25 km before breakfast today and dropped another few pounds. (40 down so far with 7 months on the LCHF IF program) My BS numbers and HbA1c are settling and I feel great. You can too! Keep us all posted
 

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Diet, then exercise worked best for me with a 144 at my initial T2 diagnosis, and a 57 two months later. (where it all happily remained with the help of both diet and exercise for a couple of years, until it began edging up along with all the T1 symptoms, which led to re-diagnosis - but that's another story.)
 
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Hello Chris and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

Daibell

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I was around the same HBA1C at diagnosis which was reduced thru tablet medication and lower-carb diet. It's bad but not necessarily dangerous. Do get a glucose meter and also possibly some Ketostix to check your ketones. If your blood sugar with the meter goes 'HI' or into the 20s for a length of time then do go to A&E. BTW I would get yourself online at your surgery including test results. You will then be in control and can meet the nurse of Dr knowing your results and can then focus and what you do next. Don't rely on the surgery as they do make mistakes as you have found.
 
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LeftPeg

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Cheers for all your help. Just had an omelette with cheese for breakfast. When I think of how many carbs I’ve been eating over the past year it makes me feel disgusted.
 
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Hi,

Yes, my doctor didn't realise the results were in. I thought the lack of contact must've meant my results were fine, but how wrong I was! I rang today just to check, and got the bad news. I'm getting tested again tomorrow for an up-to-date reading.

Kind regards,

Chris

I know it doesn't help with the past, but my surgery now has a notice on the entrance door stating it is the patient's responsibility to contact for their test results (I'm assuming whatever test), so they may have had a similar situation to yourself. Who knows?

I have to say, this is where online access comes into it's own. I helps us become more self-reliant, and means we don't have to keep calling the surgery.
 

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Sorry for the deluge of questions but can anyone recommend a device for self-testing?
 
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Went out and got myself a monitor. Tested 11.7 before lunch, and 14.2 after two hours. Had a salad with chicken breast and a bag of pork scratchings, plus a cup of tea.
 
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Went out and got myself a monitor. Tested 11.7 before lunch, and 14.2 after two hours. Had a salad with chicken breast and a bag of pork scratchings, plus a cup of tea.
Hi. I was diagnosed not long ago with a reading of 112. So higher than you. I immediately switched my diet and kept it low carb and felt better and am losing weight. But since talking to these ace people on this forum (NO thanks to my diabetes nurses.) have cut bread, rice, pasta out of my diet and am feeling more positive.

I bought my meter today.

I would be interested to see how you get on. Maybe we can help motivate each other! Hopefully we can both kick it into remission!
 

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Hi. I was diagnosed not long ago with a reading of 112. So higher than you. I immediately switched my diet and kept it low carb and felt better and am losing weight. But since talking to these ace people on this forum (NO thanks to my diabetes nurses.) have cut bread, rice, pasta out of my diet and am feeling more positive.

I bought my meter today.

I would be interested to see how you get on. Maybe we can help motivate each other! Hopefully we can both kick it into remission!

Yeah that sounds good to me. Looking forward taking my fasting bloods in the morning and seeing what the score is!
 
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Major Buckmaster

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Yeah that sounds good to me. Looking forward taking my fasting bloods in the morning and seeing what the score is!

Yes can't wait to get my meter so I can see what works and what doesn't. Let us know what it is!
 
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Yes can't wait to get my meter so I can see what works and what doesn't. Let us know what it is!

Fasting bloods Thurs were 11.2
Fasting bloods today were 10.6
I've just taken a pre-lunch reading and it's 8.9!

Cutting carbs appears to be having an immediate effect, and I don't know whether it's psychological but I feel much better already. I've spent this year gorging on bad food and beer due to going through a divorce, so I think I've given my body a shock by treating it well, albeit for 3 days.
 

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Fasting bloods Thurs were 11.2
Fasting bloods today were 10.6
I've just taken a pre-lunch reading and it's 8.9!

Cutting carbs appears to be having an immediate effect, and I don't know whether it's psychological but I feel much better already. I've spent this year gorging on bad food and beer due to going through a divorce, so I think I've given my body a shock by treating it well, albeit for 3 days.

2 hrs after lunch it was 12.6, and 3 hrs after it's 10. I guess there was something in my chicken wings and salad which disagreed with me. All part of the trial & error.
 
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Indeed. It is trial and error. I know what you mean. I feel much better already. So much more active. Thats really good though I think?

I am new to this I just did mine and it said 6.5. Not sure what that means but its ok I think?
 
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Indeed. It is trial and error. I know what you mean. I feel much better already. So much more active. Thats really good though I think?

I am new to this I just did mine and it said 6.5. Not sure what that means but its ok I think?

It means good control I think. Better than mine anyway!
 
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Indeed. It is trial and error. I know what you mean. I feel much better already. So much more active. Thats really good though I think?

I am new to this I just did mine and it said 6.5. Not sure what that means but its ok I think?
Yes that's good. These are the NHS guidelines for bg readings before and 2 hours after eating:

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It means good control I think. Better than mine anyway!

As you say its trial and error. I have to eat out tomorrow and I don't think its going to be so great as I am limited to what I can have but we'll see.

But yours is good though! I think we are both on the right track though!
 
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