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[jtuddy]

how does smoking affect diabetes can someone tell me please

 

[Debloubed]

I'm sure someone will know of the exact links between smoking and diabetes, I don't as I am a non-smoker but the obvious one is increased risk of heart disease and various other illnesses which can be caused by smoking and diabetes alike?! With diabetes you/we can be more prone to other health problems which is why good BG control is a must so you can keep yourself as healthy as possible and avoid the complications!

I think most people, smokers and none, will agree that no good can come from smoking :cry:

 

[Russ]

I don't think there's a particular link, jtuddy. The very worst thing about smoking is stopping - it can be very difficult. Smoking's good for nothing and no-one. Stopping will improve your health no end and you will be forever glad you did.

Good luck,

Russ

 

[cugila]

how does smoking affect diabetes can someone tell me please

Have a read here about the damage that smoking can do, especially if you are a Diabetic and also that it actually increases the risk of developing Diabetes as well:

http://medweb.bham.ac.uk/easdec/prevent ... abetes.htm

Smoking doubles the damage to the body caused by diabetes by causing hardening of the arteries. This particularly affects the body's larger arteries to the legs and brain, making amputation and strokes more likely. Smoking doubles the risk of diabetes (BMJ).

Researchers (EASDec 2002) have discovered smoking triples-quadruples the retinopathy progression rate of diabetic complications

Ken

 

[gig]

hi i was diagnosed t2 in january 10, my doc said that anyone needs to stop smoking but a diabetic it is more important because of other risks you allready face .i am proud to say that with help from the smoking clinic patches and lozenges i am now 16 weeks smoke free after smoking 50 a day for thirty years if this can help encourage any one else to stop brill .my cough stopped straight away and my feet are now warm . what also helped was i mentally prepared for 4wks first it is mind over matter and control and i want to keep my feet. good luck to everybody trying and if you relapse just try again .

 

[Russ]

The link you provided, Ken, is interesting but there is no causal link of smoking developing diabetes. I have spoken to the health professional from the site who confirms this. Smoking does not and cannot cause diabetes in any way. Simply, that if you are a diabetic, smoking can increase the associated risks. It definitely does not increase the risk of developing diabetes.

Russ

 

[cugila]

The link you provided, Ken, is interesting but there is no causal link of smoking developing diabetes. I have spoken to the health professional from the site who confirms this. Smoking does not and cannot cause diabetes in any way. Simply, that if you are a diabetic, smoking can increase the associated risks. It definitely does not increase the risk of developing diabetes.

Russ

Erm.......

I didn't say that it does, what I quoted was the extract from the link and also the reference to the BMJ, (British Medical Journal) where the information actually comes from in the first place.

Somebody obviously stated it does, which is why it was published. As to whether that is factual or not I couldn't say. Odd that it is on that website yet they don't agree with it ??? Did they make any comment about that ?

I am just the messenger.....it's up to you to research the claims further. I agree personally that it doesn't cause Diabetes, just will exacerbate it. However, if the claim does stand up....it's just another problem for people to contend with......it's a hard life.

Ken

 

[Barbara T]

how does smoking affect diabetes can someone tell me please

Hello. When I saw the podiatrist after being diagnosed as Type 2 earlier this year she listened to the pulse in my feet and said at once "Your're not a smoker". I asked if it was that obvious and she said that with smokers (especially if they were also drinkers) it could be hard to pick up a pulse. I assume that smoking impairs your peripheral circulation and that if you're diabetic and want to hang on to all your toes, it's a good idea to stop.

 

[rogbert]

smoking damages the veins carrying blood they fur up after a while and resrict the flow of blood to your heart we all should know that because we have diabetes we are at a greater risk of having a heart attack or stroke and as you get older parts of your body wear out.

 

[Russ]

We couldn't tell that you were only the messenger from your post, Ken - it certainly appeared that you were making the claim because it wasn't apparent from the link that there was such a notion that smoking may cause glucose intolerance not without digging a lot deeper. In any event I think there is a danger of us innocently repeating the follies of some tabloids where the full survey details (demographics etc.) and background are not provided thus enabling us to make informed opinions that are relevant to our own circumstances.

I found the item you refer to and confess to being slightly befuddled by the complexity of the survey. I have spoken to a health professional attached to the site you gave the link to - a former diabetic nurse. She thought the notion was quite obscure and felt that it (the BMJ article) should be taken with a pinch of salt. The survey only refers to young adults of 18-30 and the health professional I spoke to says that the majority of them are likely to have been pre-disposed to diabetes in that their lifestyle will probably not have been particularly healthy in the first place. The survey doesn't explain the difference between T1 and T2 and that T1 is a relatively sudden pancreatic breakdown more associated with younger sufferers rather than the slow onset of glucose intolerance that comes with T2 and older sufferers, so there's a mis-match there. She didn't think the BMJ article was a helpful. Most of us know that statistics can prove almost anything and in this case I think those given in this survey are misleading, especially by what it doesn't say.

If anyone would like to speak to the health professional about this they can do by phoning the 0800 number on your link, Ken and ask to be put through to a health professional. The initials of the one in this instance are RH.

Good luck

Russ

 

[harrywatson66]

There's no way around it. Smoking is bad for your health. Smoking harms nearly every organ of the body. Cigarette smoking causes 87 percent of lung cancer deaths. It is also responsible for many other cancers and health problems. These include lung disease, heart and blood vessel disease, stroke and cataracts. Women who smoke have a greater chance of certain pregnancy problems or having a baby die from sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS).

 

[cugila]

Russ.
I think it might be the way you read it, I don't read it that way, and it is clear that it says read here, i.e. the link ? I quoted the link, that is clear in the post and the extract........however I agree that it is difficult to believe that smoking actually causes DIabetes. So that's it as far as I'm concerned.
Who is we BTW ?

Ken

 

[Russ]

'"We" are the readers of your post, Ken.

Russ

 

[cugila]

'"We" are the readers of your post, Ken.

Russ

Oh we see ! :wink:

 

[Sue Morton]

I smoke and yes I would like to quit but find it very hard - a few years ago i was diagnosed with an incureable blood condition called polycycthiema Vera which (hope spelt that right) they said was through smoking I packed up smoking and had a check up the following year my blood had risen to 15 had another appt year later blood had risen to 16 odd and wasn't smoking - so they start to take blood from me (pint) every month I also then started smoking again due to a lot of stress - the blood taking gradually decreased from 1 to every 3 months. Then December 09 I got somesort of virus cold could not get rid of it and was still full of it when I went for my blood check up in Jan of this year with my blood high the consultant gave me antibiotics (whereas my doc said take paracetamol) back to evry 2 months. Also had a check up for bladder cancer which it seems to be coming back. (had a tumour removed last March and whilst in hospital another lady had the same and she had never smoked her parents didn't so why did she get it? she also didn't dye her hair as its said that some hair dyes can cause bladder cancer) When I had my blood appt in March the hospital found that my blood sugar was 25.3 and rang my doctor who subequently rang me and yes I got diagnosed as Diabetic. My blood is high again and reduced to having to have blood removed again every 2mths, my cancer is coming back and I am now diabetic. The non-smokers will say its all through smoking - I know smoking is bad for you but find I feel so depressed its hard to pack in. I find the craving that I have hard to cope with - In my 20's I packed up for 7 years and all them 7 years still wanted a fag. If smoking is the cause of everything why is it people who don't smoke get these illnesses as well ? I am trying to control my diabetics and if i eat something different i test to see what my BS is

 

[hanadr]

Heavy smokers can lose their feet and lower legs to arterial degradation as can diabetics, so It's probably better not to risk the "Double Whamee".
Hana

 

[Russ]

Stopping smoking, Sue, on top of everything else is a lot to ask, especially if you're trying by yourself. A lot depends on your state of mind and timing. When you feel you want to stop and need some support and advice, have a look at http://smokefree.nhs.uk or ring their free smoking helpline on 0800 022 4 322.

Good luck.

Russ