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So confused

pippag80

Newbie
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Location
Kent
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Good evening all,

So I was diagnosed on 24th December with a GTT reading of 8.7mmol after the two hour wait.

Had a great diabetic review on 24th dec and was clearly explained what I have, why, what to look out for and to manage the condition.

Since the 1st January I have taken it very seriously and keen to reverse the condition if possible.

I had gestational diabetes and my father is type 2.

But.... I am so confused! What the hell do I eat??

I have cut out bread, pasta, rice, cake, sweets, chocolate, sugar in hot drinks, potatoes.

I have eaten lots of healthy fruit (only berries and the odd banana), salads spinach etc.

My sugars went down to 4.9 on one day, but just tested myself and reading was 18.1 2 hours after a healthy stir fry.

I'm using MyFitness pal and recording everything I am eating, I'm eating under 1250 calories and exercising 3 times per week.

What should I definitely not be eating and what should I eat more of?

Thank you xxx
 
Hi pippa, sounds as though your doing well, but the thing is.....just a few wrong choices can send our blood sugars soaring :( most of the posters on hear do lchf and this means limiting your carb intake , most of us ...until we get wised up here on the forum never realised that most of what we eat is turned into glucose for the body to utilise as fuel.)
As diabetics have on average 10 times the amount of glucose in their blood ,we need to limit carbs which readily turn into glucose so as to reduce bs levels,
Have you seen the info that @ daisy1 gives to all new posters? This info is what will open a new posters understanding of what is ok to eat and what to limit or avoid,
Have a good read on the forum and you will see how to stop these bs spikes,
 
I will tag @daisy1 for you.

Read the success stories and have a look at the low carb forum and at the great recipes on the site. Read and learn. Control is the key!
 
Hi pippa you seem to have it partially sussed as far as food is concerned . 18 is not good but your other results are not too bad drop the bananas.
 
When I get an unexpectedly high spike I always make sure I've washed my hands and then test again once or twice, including t'other hand. Half the time I get a reading quite a lot lower. You can eliminate glitches this way before trying to work out exactly what spiked you.
What was in the stir fry?
 
Hi all,

Thank you so much!

Stir fry - rice noodles, oriental stir get mix with peppers etc, black bean sauce and then a sweet chilli, lime and coriander. Did have a fillet of salmon with it, but it tasted too fishy!! Haha!

Did retest and was the same.

You guys are literally all so lovely!

I don't even get an answer from my husband quicker than you guys and he's right next to me ;)

X
 
The black bean sauce and the noodles would not have helped at all. That stuff can send some thru the roof :)

Other than that, by your 1st post, you seem to have a head start on many newbies with regard to the basics so well done on that front.

Welcome by the way :) Mike
 
And maybe part of the reason for the high reading is with the first word of 'Sweet Chilli Sauce'.
 
@pippag80

Hello Pippa and welcome to the forum :)

You have already had some good replies to your post and there will no doubt be many more. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi Pippa, welcome :)

I often take to scrubbing my fingers before testing rather than just washing, it can make a significant difference.
 
Welcome, Pippa :)

You're on the right track by cutting out carbs, but they hide all over the place and can be difficult to track down! For example, bananas are one of the worst things a diabetic can eat - they're crammed full of sugar and carbs and are metabolised very quickly.
You need to keep an eye on carbs in MFP not just sugars (as carbs are metabolised into sugar) - what is your total carb consumption per day?

The other thing to be aware of when measuring carbs is the UK and the US show them differently on food labels - in the UK, the carb figure is net carbs (i.e. without fibre that can't be metabolised), whereas the US show carbs as the total including fibre. Basically, that means that if you're scanning your food and it's come from the UK database the fibre figure is informational only and shouldn't be removed from the carb figures
 
Those stir fry sauces are usually sugar packed.

It would be interesting to eat the same stir fry without the noodles or sauces.

Try ginger and lime (fresh ginger, fresh lime) instead.
With maybe a pinch of xylitol (sugar substitute, no chemical aftertaste) to cut the sharpness, instead of a bought sauce...
 
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