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TuTusweet

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Had a routine blood test--Doctor said she wanted a repeat to confirm blood sugar. Did that and went for result yesterday.
With no warning or preliminaries she simply said "you have got diabetes.I will give you tablets. One each morning with breakfast for a year then come and see me"

Three problems with this. I never eat breakfast and don't want to start. I'm overweight now.
Second the leaflet in the tablets says twice a day 12 hours apart. And three. these tablets have terrified me. I hate tablets about as much as injections. Reading about them on the internet I reckon they are more dangerous than diabetes by a long way.

Please do any members have experience of Eucreas 50mg/850mg tablets.

Thank you.
 
hi, welcome :)

I think you are right to have questions, i would suggest another appointment at the doctors and ask for an explanation about your results ie. what were they? can you get a meter to test your own blood glucose? if not i would suggest you buy one of your own at a chemist especially if you have no joy at the docs, ask why you have been given these particular tablets? if you have a look at the forum there is a thread for useful questions to ask when visiting the doctor, ask if you can have access to a diabetic nurse (they often have a better idea that doctors about diabetes, none of this is a liberty, you have been diagnosed with something, the very least they can do is explain everything involved i would say

ill see if i can find that thread
 
here it is im sure its better than what i said

viewtopic.php?f=39&t=17091

best of luck, any questions please ask

for now try to reduce your carbohydrates, bread rice pasta and potatoes oh and obviously sugar :) this will take the pressure off your pancreas while you get some answers

Andy
 
Many thanks. I feel a fool for not asking anything. i was stunned to be honest perhaps for the first time ever.

I had a glucose reading of 159 (8.8) which is why she did a follow up test. This was 139 (7.7).

What is very annoying is she has called for blood tests since 2009 at fairly regular intervals-- results have been 133, 133, 121, 155, 121, then the 159 and the 139. Nothing has been said before about diabetes. Not even the 155 at the start of 2012. But for many years she was obsessed with Statins and we actually shouted at each other about the stuff because I refused to take them.

Since 2009 I have had raised glucose and feel quite normal.

If I had not had the test I would be none the wiser that my glucose is higher than the medical profession thinks it should be. It might be my personal level that suits me.
I think there are hours of research on the web and hopefully on this Forum. I will understand it all.

Thank you for your replies.
 
Hi TuTusweet and welcome to the forum :)

To help answer some of your questions, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask more questions and someone will come and help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 70,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Thank you very much. I've done so much reading in the 30 hours since the bombshell but accept that potatoes and bread, pasta,rice are to become occasional treats. At least I can still have porrage with crushed walnuts but sadly no honey.

I found a food cures website with "good" foods that failed to help---I already eat almost all of them and have done for years. DRAT !

My really big worry is this Eucreas stuff with its vile side effects and risk of liver damage -- not good when you have had Hepatitis twice to my knowledge (three times counting childhood)
I have not taken one yet.. Until I get the sort of info I need from people who really know first hand I will not start. Nothing has been said about diet cures at all by my doctor. It seems I'm going to have to deal with it myself helped by this brilliant Forum.

And I've just heard of a woman who had metformin and was so ill she thought she was dying. Not re-assured by that.

Thank you again.
 
Hi. Yes, your doctor isn't the most communicative! It appears you have only had fasting blood tests (using USA mg/DL units?) which are NOT a way of diagnosing diabetes. The normal way is to have an HBa1C blood test or a GTT (Glucose Tolerance Test). Your fasting readings aren't too bad. Eucreas contains Metformin and Vidagliptin. Metformin is a very safe drug and as long as you have the SR (Slow Release) formulation you avoid the stomach problems that some have with the plain formulation. Vidagliptin is normally used as an added tablet when earlier actions such as diet and Metformin don't work; overall it is a safe drug but with some exceptions. Yes, having had hepatitis you would need to be careful with either drug (read the leaflet or talk to the pharmacist). If you are overweight then the first priority is to reduce your carbs which will reduce your blood glucoase. Whether you take the tablets is your decision, but do reduce your carbs and you may want to seek another doctor who will do the right tests if relevant and communicate more.
 
I reduced carbs and lost 6kg in a month. As I am very obese, BMI now in high 30's I was delighted. However, I have just done first part of DESMOND coursr and I have been told I MUST eat starchy carbs. Half of plate should be veg then of the half that is left a masdove two thirds should br stRchy carbs. Now my wroghy has levelled off and fatigue is setting in again. When I ate veru littlr statchy carbs I felt like I sas 'me' again. Can't understand why I am being told to eat these things, as latge part of every meal. Feel sooooo fed up and confused and I really want to lose such a lot if weight. Who do I go to to get this sorted out please?


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