Type 2 Soda Water And Lime

Ted Mariner

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So yesterday I went out to lunch with a friend.

Nothing over indulgent and I was careful with what I chose from the menu.

To drink I had 2 pints of soda water and lime and this morning my blood sugar has spiked to 16.6 after a few weeks of being much lower.

Could it be the drink?

Everything else I ate or drank yesterday was healthy and had a low sugar content.

Thoughts welcomed.
 

Rachox

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Hi Ted, I notice this is your first post so welcome and let me tag in @daisy1 for her useful info post.
Can you tell what exactly was in your meal and what meds you’re on to help us work out what might have happened?

Edit to correct daisy1’s tag
 
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Good morning and welcome to the forum. Tagging @daisy1 for the info pack offered to all newcomers.

Perhaps if you could tell us in more detail exactly what you ate we may be able to spot things that you may not be aware of. Did you do a second test to confirm this high reading making sure that your hands were scrupulously clean?
 
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There are many things which affect BG
- food
- stress
- how well you slept
- weather
- illness
- drugs
- alcohol
- time of day, year
- exercise
- ...

This sometimes makes it very hard to work out what caused an unexpected reading.
If it happens for me and I think it may be what I ate or drank but I'm not sure, I try it again.
 

Ted Mariner

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Thanks for the replies.

Although this is my first post I’ve been a lurker for some time.

Medication: Xultophy currently on 14 clicks, and metformin twice a day.

The meal was Chicken supreme and truffle mash with garden peas and mushrooms. No dessert or starter.

Besides that it was a normal eating day.

Melon and apple for breakfast.

Ham and pickle sandwich and glass of skimmed milk in the evening.

The Xultophy is a relatively new prescription. I’ve been on it for 9 days with only a slight reduction in overnight fasting blood sugar.

Over to the panel.
 
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Ted Mariner

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No I didn’t.

Good morning and welcome to the forum. Tagging @daisy1 for the info pack offered to all newcomers.

Perhaps if you could tell us in more detail exactly what you ate we may be able to spot things that you may not be aware of. Did you do a second test to confirm this high reading making sure that your hands were scrupulously clean?
 

dawnmc

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Hi ted, unlikely to have been the drink, if you've been lurking, and had a read around you may have read that reducing carbs helps with bs. The mash, melon, sandwich that you ate is more likely the culprits.
 

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I think your evening meal of ham and pickle (carby) sandwich (carby) and milk (carby) would be more likely to be the culprits.
 

Fruitella

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So yesterday I went out to lunch with a friend.

Nothing over indulgent and I was careful with what I chose from the menu.

To drink I had 2 pints of soda water and lime and this morning my blood sugar has spiked to 16.6 after a few weeks of being much lower.

Could it be the drink?

Everything else I ate or drank yesterday was healthy and had a low sugar content.

Thoughts welcomed.
I tend to have soda water with a slice of lime and squeeze this into the soda. Did you hsve lime cordial with the soda water? Very sugary.
 

britishpub

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If it was Lime Cordial with the Soda Water, 2 pints worth would have been 60+g or Carbohydrate, nearly all Sugar, even if diluted as per the instructions.

If it was made stronger even more carb/sugar.
 

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@Ted Mariner

Hello Ted and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

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becca59

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It would be the lime cordial. Soda water and a slice of lime is the way to go.