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Spicing it up for diabetics

sineadk said:
I have been wanting to get up to fo to the fischmarkt with ages. Can I actually eat something at Nord See?
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Fish is fantastic for diabetics, especially oily fish. You need of course to steer clear of too many chips or battered fish but most things from herring to lobster are great. Where you do have to be careful also are the bread rolls, brötchen. White flour is like eating sugar. Vollkornbrot, roggenbrot, and some types of mischbrot are ok for many diabetics, but not all. You have to test. I usually stay at the baselerhof when in Hamburg and their breakfast buffet includes some very fine full kernel breads and several types of fish salad, herring and salmon usually. I am always lower BG level two hours after breakfast than I was before breakfast. Even a bratwurst is OK, just avoid the pommes and the curry sauce which is nearly always sweetened. Schweinshaxe with weinkraut (Franziskaner - Colonnaden) is perfect for diabetics, just avoid the potatoes.

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Grünkohl with Kasseler and Mettwurst, absolutely fine for diabetics, even a couple of firm boiled potatoes probably wouldn't be a problem, but best test first. Curly Kale is excellent stuff for us.

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Looks yummy. Just had one and a half chicken breasts. I also had a huge plate of veg but did not realise until I went to cook it that there was peas and carrots in it. Hope I have not done too much damage :oops:
 
sineadk said:
Looks yummy. Just had one and a half chicken breasts. I also had a huge plate of veg but did not realise until I went to cook it that there was peas and carrots in it. Hope I have not done too much damage :oops:
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I doubt it. Peas are nearly always low GI and most carrots are low GI too. Don't cook carrots so they are very soft. The harder the better, ie, lower sugar levels. I eat a lot of raw julienned carrot as part of a 'colourful salad'. Some nice green leaves, cucumber sliced thinly, julienned carrot, sliced cherry tomatoes mixed with finely chopped red onion and then drizzled with pumpkin seed oil or olive oil and a very small amount of balasmic vinegar. That does as a side salad but if I want it as a meal I will add sliced olive and feta cheese or chunks of tuna or thin strips of smoked ham and a mild cheese.
 
lol yup , i always bake weekends and after spending 2 hours deciding what im gonna bake im so hungry i have to eat something while im baking the thing im gonna scoff soon as its done
 
I'm just going the phase of being terrified of doing something wrong. One of my biggest fears is losing my eye sight. I also have OCD so I pick something and dwell on it. I mean the funny thing is that the doc who diagnosed me said there is nothing you can not have but just in moderation. Wonder will they be against the LCHF?
 
ohhhh now your getting into a question lol, the advice given to diabetics by most medics is like putting a gun to their heads and pulling the trigger
 
and please enough with the pictures yorksman im fasting for tommorow lol
 
sineadk said:
I'm just going the phase of being terrified of doing something wrong. One of my biggest fears is losing my eye sight. I also have OCD so I pick something and dwell on it. I mean the funny thing is that the doc who diagnosed me said there is nothing you can not have but just in moderation. Wonder will they be against the LCHF?
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That is often the case if your blood glucose levels are at the lower end of the diabetic range but Roy Taylor's research points out that there is a difference between well controlled diabetes, that is keeping them at the lower end of the diabetic range, and actually returning back into the normal range. If you return to the normal range, which takes some effort, you can stay in the normal range. If you allow yourself too many little luxuries and stay at the low end of the diabetic range, you will, over time, find it more difficult. That is the progressive nature of the disease. But, it doesn't have to be progressive if you make a special effort. Has he told you what any of your levels are, fasting levels or HBA1c?
 
I didn't really understand what he was talking about at the time but the fasting level was 6,? and the one that is over the last 3 months was 6,7 I think if that makes any sense
 
Yes, 6.7 and 6.0 fasting are both higher than normal but not firmly the diabetic level. These readings are nornmally an indication that you could get diabetes unless you do something to get the figures lower, below 6.0. My fasting levels were 9.8 and 8.8 when I was dignosed and they sent me for an HBA1c which was something like 89. Three months of dieting and being careful about food and my HBA1c was 48 and now, after 10 months, my fasting levels are in the 4s and 5s. So it can be done just by diet and exercise. I guess that is why your doctor just told you that you could eat anything but in moderation.

Personally, I wouldn't go in for a low carbohydrate high fat diet. That is just my own view however. I needed, and still do need, to lose weight so I avoid much fat. I cut off the excess on schinken or other meats and cook with vegetable oil and only use half that I used to. I spread butter thinly and don't eat too much cheese and then, not very fatty cheeses. So, there is fat, but I cut a lot out.

For carbohydrates I cut out a lot by stopping all white flours. I eat brown rice, not white rice, I eat wholewheat pasta, not normal pasta and vollkornbrot and roggenbrot, no white rolls. So, it's not low carbohydrate, but better carbohydrate and not so much of it.

Exercise too makes a big difference. I started with 5 mins per day and increased it eventually to 2 x 15 mins per day, though that took me 5 or 6 months to achieve. The exercise is not about losing weight through exercise, but it improves the way you digest the food that you eat, so, daily exercise is important. Better a little every day than a lot once or twice per week. Most exercise of this sort can be done by walking more and walking a little faster. I now use a bike.
 
What you say makes super sense. I must admit that I felt bad yesterday eating all those fats and at first I felt full but at the end of the night I was craving something sweet. I have done weight watchers before but after all the reading up and LCHF diet I am not worried about all the sugar in the low fat foods. :-(
 
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