Spliting levimer dose - how

O_DP_T1

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Guys,

What is the best way to split my Levimer dose? Looks like my Levimer is running out at about 4pm see attached graph, and if I increase it then I'm getting night time lows.

I currently take 18u at 8:30pm.

Is it a 50/50 split or a 60/40 etc i.e taking more in the morning and less at night?

Also should split does be 12 hours apart.

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Guys,

What is the best way to split my Levimer dose? Looks like my Levimer is running out at about 4pm see attached graph, and if I increase it then I'm getting night time lows.

I currently take 18u at 8:30pm.

Is it a 50/50 split or a 60/40 etc i.e taking more in the morning and less at night?

Also should split does be 12 hours apart.

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Not sure there's a 'best' way. You need to experiment and see what works for you.

I am currently using a 50/50 split but have tried 60/40 and 75/25 over the past few months.
 

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You need to ask your DSN !!
 

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I agree with urbanracer, try it out first. I began with 6 pm and 10 am and after some experimenting and basal testing I ended up with 8pm and 8.5 am. It was very obvious that 6 meant high’s and 10 meant lows.
But do consult your DSN.
That’s not a bad graph btw, but then it doesn’t show food, bolus and corrections.
 

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I take 8 units at 6am and then 12 units at 6pm.

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Urbanracer's suggestion is the most sensible - experiment, test and small changes whichever dose you think isn't quite right.

I've personally found a 12 hour split usually works for me and do this at 07:30/19:30. However, I have not ended up taking 50/50 more like 45/65.
 

O_DP_T1

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Cheers guys, I'm getting in touch with my DSN but thought I'd ask here too.
 

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I take levemir with more or less 12 hours apart 50/50 split (6am and 7pm)
 
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We should never advise on doses her. We don't know you or your history and we are not professionals. Always contact the D department if you need help in this way.
 

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For a long time I use to take 23u before bed (usually anytime after 10:30pm) and then 22u before breakfast at 07:30 (on work days) and I found that I was constantly dropping low mid morning, now the docs said my breakfast ratio was wrong.......odd that I didn't have the issue at weekends where I get up later and do my diabetic things later too! I changed my Levemir morning injection to 09:30-10:30 and I was a lot more stable, I've also now dropped the number of units gradually too so on 19 PM and 17 AM now. Just to warn you timing is important.
 

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Right folks,

So been on a 60/40 levier spilt dose for about 3 days and I am still getting the post 4pm rise. I was on 18u at 8:30pm but now I am on.

11u 8:30am and 9u 9:30pm should I:

A) Increase the AM dose to say 13u
B) Take the AM dose bit later say 10:30am

The reason for the split in the first place was to eliminate the post 4pm rise as I don’t think the Levier was lasting 24 hours, but annoyed now as it’s and extra jab but the underlying issue is still present.

Thanks
 

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@O_DP_T1,
Please contact your DSN as we cannot give you advice about dosages.
Please do not give up either. You will get there !!
 

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Also do a basal test, as without that you can't really distinguish whether it's your basal or your lunch time bolus ratio that needs tweaking