Statin dilemma

[lindisfel]

I guess for all of us, it comes back to which experts we trust.

Not sure if you follow Twitter, but there's a very interesting conversation going on between Ivor Cummins and others about what a BS marker LDL is for CAD.

https://twitter.com/tednaiman/status/890203548704686081

A link worth reading:
http://www.thefatemperor.com/blog/2...-the-bad-cholesterol-thats-simplistic-foolery

Another graphic illustrating the lipids of the 136,905 patients hospitalised with CAD (unfortunately it uses US measurements):

Hi Indy that three dimensional graph on fat emporers blog is quite instructive on how LDL can be irrevelevant. thanks Derek

 

[lindisfel]

Conv

Conversion to UK numbers (rounded to one decimal point) for these two graphs gives the following :
TC 4.5 / 4.7
LDL 2.7 / 2.9
Trigs 1.8 / 1.9
HDL 1.0 / 0.9

Trigs/HDL ratios of 1.8 / 2.1
Geoff

Hi Geoff, my HDL was low before I started LCgoodfats but I'm not sure how that works in LADA. Certainly my trigs came down as well, it would be good if one could get their figures better but I guess that is where statins are a benefit. Derek

 

[librarising]

Hi Geoff, my HDL was low before I started LCgoodfats but I'm not sure how that works in LADA. Certainly my trigs came down as well, it would be good if one could get their figures better but I guess that is where statins are a benefit. Derek

My HDL is only 1.1, but my trigs are also only 1.1, giving a trigs/HDL ratio of 1. A ratio lower than 1.3 means you have more large, friendly LDL particles. Above 1.3 means you have more small, harmful LDL particles. This trigs/HDL ratio is considered by some the best predicter of cardiovascular risk. I don't worry about my LDL figure, and therefore have no interest in reducing it via statins.
Geoff

 

[Bluetit1802]

On my last interim test in June my LDL had increased by 0.6 after over 3 years of decreasing/stable since LCHF. I got a phone call from the nurse, acting on instructions from the GP, to offer me statins (again). I told her to look at the other components. Trigs 0.6, HDL 2.47, ratio 0.24. She fully agreed I don't need statins. She has now marked my records not to offer statins in future.

 

[Freema]

Phylissum Husk fibres should also help lower cholesterol
https://m.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/powdered-psyllium-husks/10530061.html