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Janz234567 said:

I've also bought stewing steak for a crockpot meal for Saturday but won't be able to put potatoes or carrots in it. Hmmm, it's a struggle.

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i say too hell with the calories in currys my partners a type 2 im a type 1 once a week we have a chinease takeaway curry, he gets a chicken/ beef curry and i get a pork curry with noodles /and fried rice now theres enough for 2 plate fulls each. the next morning my readings are around 8.4

[quote="FatGenes999, post: 469598, member: 93031
Btw, would you happen to know WHY I would get high BG readings from pepper-jack cheese? My BG has improved over the past few days,while I'm still experimenting; but, I did notice a high BG reading after the cheese, quite a few hours later, in fact. The vision is blurry too, and that usually means poor sugar assimilation.[/quote]

I'll quote and answer myself here, if no one minds.
Based on some quick research, I found that cheese can cause BG rise hours after eaten because of the insulin index. This would most likely occur when eaten without carbs. This has to do with slowly breaking down proteins. Cheese itself contains no sugar, though.

Yeah, cauliflower is great. Can't wait to get some. Looking forward to artichokes too.

As long as you don't blame me!

cheese

FatGenes999 said:

[quote="FatGenes999, post: 469598, member: 93031
Btw, would you happen to know WHY I would get high BG readings from pepper-jack cheese? My BG has improved over the past few days,while I'm still experimenting; but, I did notice a high BG reading after the cheese, quite a few hours later, in fact. The vision is blurry too, and that usually means poor sugar assimilation.

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I'll quote and answer myself here, if no one minds.
Based on some quick research, I found that cheese can cause BG rise hours after eaten because of the insulin index. This would most likely occur when eaten without carbs. This has to do with slowly breaking down proteins. Cheese itself contains no sugar, though.

Yeah, cauliflower is great. Can't wait to get some. Looking forward to artichokes too.[/quote]



cheese causes bg rise? wow, all different once again never had that effect on me, phew

Andy12345 said:

cheese


I'll quote and answer myself here, if no one minds.
Based on some quick research, I found that cheese can cause BG rise hours after eaten because of the insulin index. This would most likely occur when eaten without carbs. This has to do with slowly breaking down proteins. Cheese itself contains no sugar, though.

Yeah, cauliflower is great. Can't wait to get some. Looking forward to artichokes too.

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cheese causes bg rise? wow, all different once again never had that effect on me, phew[/quote]

Yep, I just read that some people are affected by higher BG at least 4 hours after eating cheese .
(Milk I could expect because the carton always indicates a sugar content.)
Mine happened after 6 hours. It's pretty complicated to understand, therefore, for me to explain. What seems to be involved is the fat/protein and insulin issues.
i was starting to feel pretty good yesterday, then last night I had the cheese and today I feel 'hungover" again, and like I said, had significantly higher BG. The cheese is the only food that could have done this.
I'm very disappointed as I thought cheese would be a safe "default" food. I'll try again in the near future, miniscule amount this time.
Everyone is so different.

Avocado Sevenfold said:

Sorry to read that you are blurry. I thought cheese was pretty benign. I read on here recently to watch out for the grated/shredded cheeses as they add potato starch to the mix to stop it clumping. I didn't know that about eating without carbs, thanks. Are you sure you are not coming down with a cold or something as that can push up your bg? Hope you get back to normal soon

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Thanks, luvie. No, unfortunately I've become all too familiar with the particular feeling of food-based high BG. It's definitely that.
Until today, almost everything I've ever read on cheese and BG would indicate it is pretty benign. Maybe its a very individual occurrence, and with different factors involved.
This is pepper-jack block cheese. Could be the particular brand, as I have never used this brand before. Maybe there is potato starch in it although the ingredients don't list it. It feels like the yukky potato starch overdose.
Hope everyone here continues to enjoy their cheese, though!

Avocado Sevenfold said:

That's a shame. Hope that this is just a phase and that you get your cheese mojo back again soon.

I was thinking recently that it is weird how a bad food can make us feel so rotten...like you described it as a hangover. Before I changed my diet pending diagnosis, I reckon I must have felt like that all the time, but was so used to it that it became the norm and I didn't realise that something was wrong . This is what is keeping me from freaking out about the diagnosis. I am not living in a fog anymore and am fortunate to know what is going on now

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Oh, yeah. Yesterday I was starting to feel so much healthier after lowering all carbs for about 2 weeks.
Then the cheese thing happened
The hungover feeling had begun about 3 months ago for me, that's why I knew there was definitely something wrong. My GP had warned me over 6 months ago. Now it looks like unless I keep the BG down I will always feel hungover. Horrible and dangerous.


Outdoors is literally a "slippery-slope for me". We have continual ice and snow where I currently live, and I risk my life by walking outside because I still feel somewhat dizzy and weak sometimes. It's so easy to slip and fall even with my snow boots and spiked-cleats foot-gear. Then I have to worry about hypothermia if I couldn't get up and there was no one around. Crossing the streets, even with the green light, is terrifying for me. I have so much shame and embarrassment for not being able to be as physically agile as I usually am.
So, the "complications" of diabetes are vast, directly and indirectly. I hate this ailment and I look forward to having stable BG like you and so many other members here have achieved. Hopefully, this will be my last week of having to "experiment" and I'll be able to stick to only the foods that work.

Avocado Sevenfold said:

Oh I hate snow and ice. Could you carry a personal attack alarm or whistle in case you get upended on the ice and need assistance? And your phone of course. Doctor Avocado's orders - ditch the shame and embarrassment...anything that causes stress is bad for your bg. Spring is coming and your blood is getting better

Off to bed now. Night night.

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Ha, ha, I'm just going to bed now, it's 4:00 a.m. here, in the States. Hope you slept well.
Yes, Doc Avo, I carry at least a cell-phone that I can easily get to, for that very reason. Thanks for all the concern and encouragement.

Btw, I'm starting to feel better. Whatever the culprit was is probably out of my system.
Now I'm thinking It could have been all of the salt in the cheese, as "salt" was listed as an extra ingredient on the label, which is odd.

I am also thinking about the most obvious ---- peanut butter. High carbs, duh. I've been eating the natural peanut butter and celery for the past few days. I shouldn't so easily assume it was the cheese.

I'm also researching candida yeast infection, as I understand those of use with diabetes, and other digestive disorders, could have the candida problem as an underlying cause. The "cure ' for that is, as you may know, a highly restrictive diet. Not even fruits are allowed.

Cheers, and see yer later.

FatGenes999 said:

Ha, ha, I'm just going to bed now, it's 4:00 a.m. here, in the States. Hope you slept well.
Yes, Doc Avo, I carry at least a cell-phone that I can easily get to, for that very reason. Thanks for all the concern and encouragement.

Btw, I'm starting to feel better. Whatever the culprit was is probably out of my system.
Now I'm thinking It could have been all of the salt in the cheese, as "salt" was listed as an extra ingredient on the label, which is odd.

I am also thinking about the most obvious ---- peanut butter. High carbs, duh. I've been eating the natural peanut butter and celery for the past few days. I shouldn't so easily assume it was the cheese.

I'm also researching candida yeast infection, as I understand those of use with diabetes, and other digestive disorders, could have the candida problem as an underlying cause. The "cure ' for that is, as you may know, a highly restrictive diet. Not even fruits are allowed.

Cheers, and see yer later.

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peanut butter is low carb if no added sugar

Andy12345 said:

peanut butter is low carb if no added sugar

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That's what I thought, but, maybe I'll just cut down on it, though.() Too much of anything is not good.


I can't go through too much more experimenting at this point, and thankfully, my BG numbers, although not ideal, are getting "tighter".
I've also used so many strips for the glucometer over the past two weeks that I'm almost down to nothing. I'll probably just stick to what I know works at this point.

I also know that salt by itself , as the high salt content in the cheese, wouldn't have caused that spike; could have been a combination of things at the time, but my vision is a lot better today and my balance is also, fortunately. .

Just added something new to my UK info file - Burn's Night,, a birthday commemoration for the Scottish poet, Robert Burns.

Hope the Metformin continues to help you. I will go that route if I need to.

I always try to stay with the hippie peanut butter myself; I just have to know when enough is enough. I think I'm overcompensating a bit right now because I know I won't be able to get away with "wandering" as I have, throughout my life.

The food and exercise program I had instinctively come up with for myself, in High School eek:!!!!!), was actually the best for someone who has the genes for insulin problems. Very low carbs, medium fats and proteins, routine exercise. Anytime I've returned to that I've always felt better.


I'll request to be tested for candida in the near future. So much of what helps insulin-resistance also seems to kill off the horrid systemic yeast.

In the States we now have mandatory nationalized health care --- Obamacare----- and I am waiting for my benefits to kick in. Then I can get moving on other medical concerns related to the diabetes, such as seeing the eye and foot specialists. I can get the strips at very low cost that way, too.

Avocado Sevenfold said:

Every day is a school day on this thread. Tomorrow's lesson: Australia Day.
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On this forum we should have holidays in celebration of certain foods that have helped us, y'know, Avocado Day, Peanut Butter Day, Garlic Day, etc. Maybe a whole week in honor of "Low-Carbing". LOL, Tributes to foods and lifestyles that are literally keeping us alive.

Australia Day: Honors the first British Colony in Australia, at Sydney Cove. 1788.

in chinese diabetc circles 2014 is the year of the jelly

Andy12345 said:

in chinese diabetc circles 2014 is the year of the jelly

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