STOP EATING CHICKEN ?

[BaliRob]

Here in Bali - locals with Diabetes are being told by their doctors to stop eating chicken. When questioned
they tell me that their doctors tell them that chicken is a high cholesterol-producing food.

I have always eaten chicken (re-inforced here on the Forum) without the skin - am I missing something? Do
those in S/E Asia know something we do not?

 

[Jo_the_boat]

Sounds like a load of **** - on two counts.
Chicken is fine and cholesterol is not the real bad boy.

 

[Guzzler]

Sounds like an urban myth or Chinese Whispers to me. Chicken is good to eat with or without the skin.

 

[NicoleC1971]

Chicken with the skin is great as is chicken liver. Chicken contains protein and fat (both saturated and polyunsaturated as do ALL animal foods) and omega 6 fatty. Definitely better than bread or rice for a type 2 person anyway...

 

[Tophat1900]

The chickens would agree, stop eating chickens.

 

[kokhongw]

I have always eaten chicken (re-inforced here on the Forum) without the skin - am I missing something? Do those in S/E Asia know something we do not?

How is their HbA1c with their chicken avoidance?

 

[Mike d]

Just excuse the locals. Dumb as

 

[BaliRob]

Thank you all for your comments and for the good laugh submitted by Tophat1900 - I will continue as normal
and eat chicken and mixed vegetables every day as usual.

 

[Dexterdobe]

Here in Bali - locals with Diabetes are being told by their doctors to stop eating chicken. When questioned
they tell me that their doctors tell them that chicken is a high cholesterol-producing food.

I have always eaten chicken (re-inforced here on the Forum) without the skin - am I missing something? Do
those in S/E Asia know something we do not?

Maybe they are concerned about a diabetic epidemic in the human population in Bali, spread by diabetic chickens.

 

[HICHAM_T2]

The only drawback is that high-protein protein becomes glucose by 50 percent in the absence of carbohydrates

 

[bulkbiker]

The only drawback is that high-protein protein becomes glucose by 50 percent in the absence of carbohydrates

Not necessarily... and especially not necessarily for Type 2's although this does appear to be an issue for some Type 1's.

 

[Lamont D]

I will wait to be shot down but here goes!

I've read recently that, why chicken should be avoided is something like this.

Chicken will have a higher insulin response if the diabetic has either or both of high circulating/background insulin if their glucose is high with insulin resistance.

So newbies with hyperglycaemia, hyperinsulinaemia and insulin resistance will get a higher insulin response to chicken.

Once T2 diabetics have good control the lower the hba1c levels, insulin response is improved and eating chicken is as good as any other animal protein.

Tin hat on!

 

[lucylocket61]

what is there specific to chicken to make it potentially harmful as a source of protein?

 

[bulkbiker]

I will wait to be shot down but here goes!

I've read recently that, why chicken should be avoided is something like this.

Chicken will have a higher insulin response if the diabetic has either or both of high circulating/background insulin if their glucose is high with insulin resistance.

So newbies with hyperglycaemia, hyperinsulinaemia and insulin resistance will get a higher insulin response to chicken.

Once T2 diabetics have good control the lower the hba1c levels, insulin response is improved and eating chicken is as good as any other animal protein.

Tin hat on!

Is that because it is low fat? When I did my solely carnivore month last year I found that chicken seemed to give me spikes whereas most other meats didn't. However a year down the line it doesn't seem to have that effect any more in that I get the same responses from chicken, steak and pork chops (not much response at all).

 

[Hotpepper20000]

Is that because it is low fat? When I did my solely carnivore month last year I found that chicken seemed to give me spikes whereas most other meats didn't. However a year down the line it doesn't seem to have that effect any more in that I get the same responses from chicken, steak and pork chops (not much response at all).

I rarely eat chicken breast because of the low fat content and find that it just isn’t as satisfying as the chicken thighs.
I haven't tested the difference in my Bg. But I think I will now.

 

[Lamont D]

Is that because it is low fat? When I did my solely carnivore month last year I found that chicken seemed to give me spikes whereas most other meats didn't. However a year down the line it doesn't seem to have that effect any more in that I get the same responses from chicken, steak and pork chops (not much response at all).

I'm not certain but it's possible.
If you have seen the insulin index of, one of the surprising foods that have higher than you would think is high is chicken.
But those doing regular low carb or Keto, is much lower than the insulin index.

I have of course tested by eating chicken (with skin) to see if I get a higher blood glucose response but I didn't, I can't measure my insulin!

But it is interesting is true.

Maybe then, those who advocate that too much protein will effect blood glucose levels too high for diabetics (or me) will shut up. (I have tested for years, no discernible difference in my levels at all.

 

[bulkbiker]

Maybe then, those who advocate that too much protein will effect blood glucose levels too high for diabetics (or me) will shut up. (I have tested for years, no discernible difference in my levels at all.

I agree I overeat my protein macro daily but still have low HbA1c .. great thing bodies..