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Sugar free and diet products?

Sarah2014

Sarah2014

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I have been told these are worse for diabetics than normal stuff due to added sweeteners syrups and gluclose is this true? Should I have normal yogurt for example same for drinks I enjoy a zero coke or sugar free tropical juice once in a while is this now bad?


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Alot of "Diet" products are low fat, but high sugar, those are the ones you have to be extra carefull of. "Sugar Free" is more of a personal choice as some of the sweetners can have advirse side effects in larger amounts and some reports have been made about longer term side effects
 
lessci said:
Alot of "Diet" products are low fat, but high sugar, those are the ones you have to be extra carefull of. "Sugar Free" is more of a personal choice as some of the sweetners can have advirse side effects in larger amounts and some reports have been made about longer term side effects
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Thank you So normal foods would be better in most cases?


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The sugar-free/no added sugar cordials are fine, it's the goods that are target at diabetics that you want to avoid, Boots use to sell them (or still do) and whatever sweetener they used would cause a laxative effect and have you running to the loo.
 
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Thank you So normal foods would be better in most cases?


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These is a question I am struggling with at the moment. Is it better to have the low fat or the normal version of a product such as cheese? A couple of months ago I would have replied automatically go for the low fat. Now I am not so sure. As I need to lose some weight anyway I now tend to go for smaller quantities of the full fat version as this is lower carb, less processed and usually tastes better. But you have to teach yourself to be satisfied with a little of a good thing. I will have to see how my next lipid levels are like though.

Pavlos


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pavlosn said:
These is a question I am struggling with at the moment. Is it better to have the low fat or the normal version of a product such as cheese? A couple of months ago I would have replied automatically go for the low fat. Now I am not so sure. As I need to lose some weight anyway I now tend to go for smaller quantities of the full fat version as this is lower carb, less processed and usually tastes better. But you have to teach yourself to be satisfied with a little of a good thing. I will have to see how my next lipid levels are like though.

Pavlos


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I use low fat cheese.
Just had a quick look

Cathedral city mature per 100g

Light


311 cal
28.6g fat of which 14.9g saturates
0.1g carbs
28.6g protein

Full fat

416 cal
34.9g fat of which 21.7g saturates
0.1g carbs
25.4 g protein

Both contain only milk in the ingredients.

So I'm happy with lower fat for this.

I have noticed that a lot of diet products which are low fat, don't have added sugars or artificial sweeteners in, and haven't done for quite a while. Always check the label.

So I low fat, and still don't have a problem with my bs.
 
Douglas something is not right with the numbers you quote, you state amount per 100 g of cheese but the total of the numbers you quote ( fat plus protein plus carbs) are 57,3 g for the low fat and 60, 4 g for the full fat. Where have the missing 42,7 g and 39,6g gone. Could it be that the 0,1g you quote is sugar not carbs - it does seem extremely low for cheese.


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I think you should have the cheeses you like. I have some low-fat and some full fat but I like them all. Dutch cheeses such as Edam are naturally fairly low fat. The problem with some 'diabetic' foods is that they have sugar-alcohols e.g. Maltitol instead of sugar but these still have 50% of the sugar carbs and are laxatives.
 
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Douglas something is not right with the numbers you quote, you state amount per 100 g of cheese but the total of the numbers you quote ( fat plus protein plus carbs) are 57,3 g for the low fat and 60, 4 g for the full fat. Where have the missing 42,7 g and 39,6g gone. Could it be that the 0,1g you quote is sugar not carbs - it does seem extremely low for cheese.
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I would guess water?

Just checked the emmental, it's a full fat, but naturally lower than cheddar.

28g protein
0.1g carb
29g fat

pilgrims choice

25g protein
0.1g carb
34.4g fat

and less than a gram of salt.

So they all look the same ballpark.
 
Daibell said:
I think you should have the cheeses you like. I have some low-fat and some full fat but I like them all. Dutch cheeses such as Edam are naturally fairly low fat. The problem with some 'diabetic' foods is that they have sugar-alcohols e.g. Maltitol instead of sugar but these still have 50% of the sugar carbs and are laxatives.
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A lot of foods do, sugar alcohols are the usual "low carb" atkins type sweetener as well.
I like Thorntons having said that.
 
A really simple thing to do is look at the label of whatever you're considering eating. Most labels have a column of numbers called "per 100g" or similar. Look at the Total Carbohydrate number against the "per 100g" column. If its more than 10(ish) be more and more suspect of it the bigger the number you see. Some foods will have 0 carbs so these are generally fine but others can have a very high number and those are the ones to limit or avoid.

On the label ignore the "Of which sugar" numbers as they are pretty meaningless. Sugar is just a type of carbohydrate and its primarily carbs that make BG's rise.
 
xyzzy said:
A really simple thing to do is look at the label of whatever you're considering eating. Most labels have a column of numbers called "per 100g" or similar. Look at the Total Carbohydrate number against the "per 100g" column. If its more than 10(ish) be more and more suspect of it the bigger the number you see. Some foods will have 0 carbs so these are generally fine but others can have a very high number and those are the ones to limit or avoid.

On the label ignore the "Of which sugar" numbers as they are pretty meaningless. Sugar is just a type of carbohydrate and its primarily carbs that make BG's rise.
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Omg I never knew that thank you


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I look at both.
I know sugar will spike me, so I avoid products with high sugar.
Other things are carbs by nature, but I'm fine with them, so I tend not to avoid them, quinoa is nearly 20g per 100g, but it's a low GI, so I'll still eat it.
Basmati rice is 77g per 100g, but 0.2g sugar, I won't eat a vast amount, but Basmati is generally ok for me again as it's a low GI.
Each to their own, and check with your meter.
 
douglas99 said:
I look at both.
I know sugar will spike me, so I avoid products with high sugar.
Other things are carbs by nature, but I'm fine with them, so I tend not to avoid them, quinoa is nearly 20g per 100g, but it's a low GI, so I'll still eat it.
Basmati rice is 77g per 100g, but 0.2g sugar, I won't eat a vast amount, but Basmati is generally ok for me again as it's a low GI.
Each to their own, and check with your meter.
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I'm going to test religiously after foods to see what spikes and dosnt it will take a while I think but at least I will he a general idea of what's for me or not! Thank you


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douglas99 said:
I look at both.
I know sugar will spike me, so I avoid products with high sugar.
Other things are carbs by nature, but I'm fine with them, so I tend not to avoid them, quinoa is nearly 20g per 100g, but it's a low GI, so I'll still eat it.
Basmati rice is 77g per 100g, but 0.2g sugar, I won't eat a vast amount, but Basmati is generally ok for me again as it's a low GI.
Each to their own, and check with your meter.
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I find ASDA brown basmati rice is the best. Early on after diagnosis I could manage no more than a tablespoon of rice without a serious spike but with the ASDA one I could get to the heady heights of two tablespoons. Later I found that Indian Pilau rice is even better as it's fried rice. I can do 3 to 4 tablespoons of that so roughly a third of a takeaway container. Wouldn't do that more than once or twice a week though.

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Sarah2014 said:
I'm going to test religiously after foods to see what spikes and dosnt it will take a while I think but at least I will he a general idea of what's for me or not! Thank you


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I did for several weeks when I was diagnosed.
I found it better to originally keep the meal simple, say pasta, with a fairly neutral sauce, then a bean meal, again a neutral sauce, bulgur wheat etc, if it spiked me, it was fairly clear it would be the pasta etc, so I could cross it off my list.
Lentils were surprising though, green or yellow, one was ok, one was bad.
 
xyzzy said:
I find ASDA brown basmati rice is the best. Early on after diagnosis I could manage no more than a tablespoon of rice without a serious spike but with the ASDA one I could get to the heady heights of two tablespoons. Later I found that Indian Pilau rice is even better as it's fried rice. I can do 3 to 4 tablespoons of that so roughly a third of a takeaway container. Wouldn't do that more than once or twice a week though.

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Pilau is a way of cooking basmati rice, it still gets boiled after a quick flash fry, the trick is to cook it as quickly as possible.
Good for me as well.
One of those things you have to be careful of though, some mass produced or take away versions use cheap rice, so the effect can be worse on your bs.
 
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