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Sugar spike that wont go

chrissiemids

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi, my name is Christine, I am 63 years young and was diagnosed type2 about 5 years ago.treated with metformin since and had morning readings of around 8. Then 3 months ago went to docs for blood results and it had shot up off scale for no apparent reason. My morning results had gone up to about 10. So doc doubled my metformin to 2000 sr and after 6 weeks it has'nt made the slightest difference. I have done nothing any different and weigh the same so why has it suddenly shot up? Any answers???
 
Maybe it's time to look at what your eating ..and reducing your bs by changing your diet .. What is a typical days food for you ?
 
Thanks for that,I have bought and read the book diabetes 101. It was a lot of statistics really and the part I wanted to know about ei. carbs took about 1 chapter. So I have been counting carbs and I dont usually go above 100 gms. I have cut out potatoes. I have only ever eat brown bread. have no suger or sweet things. I have read that infection can raise sugar, so as the only thing in my life that is different to 6 months ago is, Ive got what is called post nasal drip, had it since october. Doc treated with nasal spray which by the way can cause sugar rise, anyway didnt work so back to docs next week and I will ask why and if I have now got an infection, which would answer my question. However maybe I'm clutching at straws. If I've doubled metformin why hasn't it made any difference anyway?
 
Thanks for that,I have bought and read the book diabetes 101. It was a lot of statistics really and the part I wanted to know about ei. carbs took about 1 chapter. So I have been counting carbs and I dont usually go above 100 gms. I have cut out potatoes. I have only ever eat brown bread. have no suger or sweet things. I have read that infection can raise sugar, so as the only thing in my life that is different to 6 months ago is, Ive got what is called post nasal drip, had it since october. Doc treated with nasal spray which by the way can cause sugar rise, anyway didnt work so back to docs next week and I will ask why and if I have now got an infection, which would answer my question. However maybe I'm clutching at straws. If I've doubled metformin why hasn't it made any difference anyway?
Ps typical day is slice brown bread toast breakfast lunch salad or banana sandwich on brown. dinner meat and veg. 2 after eight mints.
 
Brown bread is as just as bad as white bread, too many carbs, the banana will also spike you.
After eight mints should be binned as they are pure sugar.
The salad and meat and two veg are ok as long as they aren't starchy veg.

If you have a look in the low carb forum and the threads about what posters are eating. There are some great recipes on here. If you follow a low carb medium to high fat 'diet', you will eventually lose the high blood glucose levels and and get your hba1c down. Also read about the success stories in the forum thread.

It seems to me that you have been given what to eat by a doctor's nurse or some one who isn't diabetic.

The people on here have been where you are now and have had real success in lowering their blood glucose levels and also losing weight as well

Hope this helps
 
I agree with Nosher. It doesn't matter twopence what colour bread is, if it's got flour in it then most of us type 2's can't eat it. I don't have to explain about the after 8's do I?
 
You would also benefit from the advice that @daisy1 gives to newly diagnosed.

As you have a meter and test strips then you need to test and see what is raising your blood sugar levels so it is essential to keep a food diary rather

than going over the same ground repeatedly. This is a marathon rather than a sprint and remember that the level of carbs you personally are able to

tolerate is unique to you. A rise between 1-2 points after a meal is acceptable. Metformin is not a magic pill and you still have to be mindful of what

you are eating as it will not decrease your levels by very much.
 
Hi and welcome. Afew things. Bananas are not good for us and bread needs to be controlled. It would be useful to know your current BMI. If you have been taking medication containing steroids these can cause a big rise in blood sugar and an infection doesn't help. If none of thse are the cause and your BMI is near normal then I think you should discuss your T2 diagnosis with the GP. It is always possible you are a Late onset T1 and a c-peptide test will measure your insulin production level. So, do query steroids and let us know your BMI then discuss diagnosis options with the GP.
 
@chrissiemids

Hello Christine and welcome to the forum :)

You have got some good advice from members and I am sure there will be more. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful, especially with regards to diet and carbs. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi and welcome. Afew things. Bananas are not good for us and bread needs to be controlled. It would be useful to know your current BMI. If you have been taking medication containing steroids these can cause a big rise in blood sugar and an infection doesn't help. If none of thse are the cause and your BMI is near normal then I think you should discuss your T2 diagnosis with the GP. It is always possible you are a Late onset T1 and a c-peptide test will measure your insulin production level. So, do query steroids and let us know your BMI then discuss diagnosis options with the GP.
Yes it was a steroid spray that was prescibed by doc, so when i read about its effect, i stopped using it. My BMI is 32. So no more guilty pleasures like afer eight mint's then. sugar free jelly it is then yuk! Will look at what veg and fruit are ok Thanks a lot for your input and I will post results of doc visit.
 
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