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T 2 Now Insulin Dependent

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Diagnosed with t2 16 plus years ago it's been unstable for most of those years got fed up with Gliclazide and hypos when trying to exercise so refused to take it. DN then put me on insulin humulin I now better managed but really fed up with having to inject 50 units am and 20 units pm. I started the BBC HIT programme 3 days ago and already a significant drop in insulin injected. I am determined to follow this programme and who knows might put T2 into remission any one else tried a similar programme with success keep folks updated presently only 20 units am and 15pm but readings about 8.5 on average but frightened of hypos.
 
That's great Philip that you are managing to reduce your insulin. I discovered HIIT after reading Dr Aseem Malhotra's Pioppi Diet book and I now do a burst of HIIT when out on my bike. Too early to say if it is having an influence on my BG, but it will be good for my cardio-vascular health.

For any readers who don't know what HIT or HIIT (High intensity interval training) is; it involves a 20 second burst of exercise followed by 10 seconds rest repeated 8 times. Thus it doesn't take a lot of time and does not require going to a gym or any expensive equipment
 
I'm not type2 (probably), but I see this is your first post, so welcome to the forum!
I'll tag @daisy1 for you, her information pack for new members might be of use to you on top of what you're already doing!
 
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The method recommended by the BBC was 2 mins regular cycling and a 20 second burst as fast as you can physically manage then steady for 2 mins complete 3 rounds of this takes 9 mins. Did it again tonight for tea pork chop carrot and Swede stuffing 2 roast potatoes, 3hours after the meal 6.1
Wow first time ever that reading has been that low after a meal.
This really looks positive 9 mins of hard work a day hopefully can see me returning insulin pens I'll keep folks updated
 
@philip_hennessey

Hello Philip and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
Thank you some useful information in 4 days of this exercise regime I have now halved my am and pm units of insulin and my readings have varied from 3.9 - 8.9 taken at different times of the day. I always appear to have a spike of about 11-12 for up to 4 hours after breakfast which is either a bowl of cornflakes or reduced sugar muesli with out additional sugars and 2 cups of tea no sugar. This is with insulin and same with reduced.
 
Thank you some useful information in 4 days of this exercise regime I have now halved my am and pm units of insulin and my readings have varied from 3.9 - 8.9 taken at different times of the day. I always appear to have a spike of about 11-12 for up to 4 hours after breakfast which is either a bowl of cornflakes or reduced sugar muesli with out additional sugars and 2 cups of tea no sugar. This is with insulin and same with reduced.
Mainly because that breakfast is really carb heavy. Eggs with bacon, mushrooms and cheese probably wouldn't spike you at all. Practically no carbs. ;)
 
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