The replies on this thread really sadden me. So many people for whom low carb isn't working but many of whom have passed the window of opportunity for doing weight loss instead. I am pretty frightened of being in that position myself, and being unable to reverse my T2 because I dropped the weight loss diet too soon. By the time I re started it I had been over 4 years T2, possibly more. After 4 years it gets much more difficult to reverse T2 as the beta cells get more and more damaged over time and often can't be revived. Until last week, when my OGT results improved in a bit of a jump, I had become really terrified that I would be stuck with T2 for life, and was getting depressed by it. I couldn't face having no option but to try either low carb or drugs, neither of which offer anything more than remission at best, rather than complete reversal. And for many, including some of those posting on here, low carb doesn't work for them. By the time you have had T2 for 10 years your chances of reversal by weight loss have reduced to 50/50. That's why I think it is so very important to try weight loss first, as doing low carb early on can waste precious time, and cost you your window of opportunity for a diet that is capable of reversing T2 rather than simply putting it into remission by lowering your HBA1C. You have the rest of your life to try low carb as there is no time limit on it.
I think it is so very important to try weight loss first, as doing low carb early on can waste precious time
The replies on this thread really sadden me.
@Tannith as many on this forum have proved it’s not necessarily weight loss that reduces Hba1c but reduced carb intake which, in a number of people, leads to weight loss. However there are some members here, me included, who successfully maintain a non diabetic Hba1c despite not losing much weight. Apologies if you’ve already stated it but what is your current hba1c as I thought it was already in the official non diabetic range?The replies on this thread really sadden me. That's why I think it is so very important to try weight loss first, as doing low carb early on can waste precious time, and cost you your window of opportunity for a diet that is capable of reversing T2 rather than simply putting it into remission by lowering your HBA1C. You have the rest of your life to try low carb as there is no time limit on it.
I was asked for my latest nhs HBA1C by someone on here , gave it and @Jim Lahey very kindly gave me the heads up that it was poor. In the pre diabetic range in most scales and actually in the diabetic range in one. I immediately, that same day, re started my weight loss diet and sent for home OGT test ingredients. Though my FBG was then, I think, at the upper end of normal, my OGT test results were abysmal. Actually well into the diabetic range!!! I base my decisions on the results of all 3 accessible tests as they show slightly different aspects of BG. To me, the OGT is the most important one as it shows how well the beta cells are processing a set amount of glucose. Which is what you need to know if, like me, it is reversal of T2 you are aiming for,rather than just remission of high blood sugars. And also it is in the present –today’s results- not up to 3 months in the past, like the HBA1C. Current results are what I need at the moment, as once they are in about the middle of the normoglycaemic range (in all 3 tests) I shall feel safe enough to stop my weight loss diet. I have no problem with doing the HBA1C later as it is a useful long term measure of average BG, but it’s not urgent for me. Which is just as well as I can’t get one during Covid anyway.@Tannith as many on this forum have proved it’s not necessarily weight loss that reduces Hba1c but reduced carb intake which, in a number of people, leads to weight loss. However there are some members here, me included, who successfully maintain a non diabetic Hba1c despite not losing much weight. Apologies if you’ve already stated it but what is your current hba1c as I thought it was already in the official non diabetic range?
The replies on this thread really sadden me. So many people for whom low carb isn't working but many of whom have passed the window of opportunity for doing weight loss instead. I am pretty frightened of being in that position myself, and being unable to reverse my T2 because I dropped the weight loss diet too soon. By the time I re started it I had been over 4 years T2, possibly more. After 4 years it gets much more difficult to reverse T2 as the beta cells get more and more damaged over time and often can't be revived. Until last week, when my OGT results improved in a bit of a jump, I had become really terrified that I would be stuck with T2 for life, and was getting depressed by it. I couldn't face having no option but to try either low carb or drugs, neither of which offer anything more than remission at best, rather than complete reversal. And for many, including some of those posting on here, low carb doesn't work for them. By the time you have had T2 for 10 years your chances of reversal by weight loss have reduced to 50/50. That's why I think it is so very important to try weight loss first, as doing low carb early on can waste precious time, and cost you your window of opportunity for a diet that is capable of reversing T2 rather than simply putting it into remission by lowering your HBA1C. You have the rest of you
ur life to try low carb as there is no time limit on it.
We don't read all the threads and posts on the forum. There isn't time.was asked for my latest nhs HBA1C by someone on here , gave it an
@Jim Lahey very kindly gave me the heads up that it was poor.
If you click on the name of a member who makes you feel uncomfortable, you'll find an 'ignore' button. It's also on the top right on profile pages.I no longer read the news anymore due to all the doom mongering please don’t make this forum a place I have to avoid just in case I come across someone who is saying the same stuff.
Which charts show 39 as prediabetic? As far as I can find that is the first point for the USA but cannot find any others.I was asked for my latest nhs HBA1C by someone on here , gave it and @Jim Lahey very kindly gave me the heads up that it was poor. In the pre diabetic range in most scales and actually in the diabetic range in one. ....I have no problem with doing the HBA1C later as it is a useful long term measure of average BG, but it’s not urgent for me. Which is just as well as I can’t get one during Covid anyway.
As I said above "Current results are what I need at the moment, as once they are in about the middle of the normoglycaemic range (in all 3 tests) I shall feel safe enough to stop my weight loss diet." I shall hope to lose enough weight to put me in this normal range (middle) in all 3 tests. At present my OGT results, although they are improving, are still in the prediabetic range, so they need to come down before I can stop losing weight. But I can't actually know what that weight will be until I get there and find all 3 tests are mid normal range. FBGs are already OK and HBA1C I can't know until the pandemic is over. Not that it would help at the moment while the OGT is nowhere near yet, and all 3 have to be right to reverse T2 to normoglycaemic.@Tannith you seem to pay a lot of attention to weight loss, and have re-started a low cal weight loss exercise. Can you tell us if you are in the over weight range, the obese range, or normal range? How much weight do you hope to lose? It is perfectly possible to lose weight on a diet of low carb combined with low calories. It is what I did. I counted both initially and dropped from a BMI of 31 to a BMI of 21 in 9 or 10 months as well as reducing my blood glucose levels.
Perhaps a mod can tell me if a member is able to see they’ve been switched off or if it it silent and anonymous?
You aren't wasting your breath. It's important that lurkers and newbies and others can see as many different views as possible. For this reason It would also be good if @Tannith could answer your questions.I’m feeling like I’m in an echo chamber here. With none of my very legitimate questions being answered. Perhaps I’ve had “ignore” activated on me.In which case I’ll save my breath/typing fingertips.
Perhaps a mod can tell me if a member is able to see they’ve been switched off or if it it silent and anonymous?
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