Well, I don't know.... I don't want to have muscles where I don't currently have em...I want to look like a woman not an over large Ken dollPut me down.
My mind is open to any ideas that can help others, even if I can't see a personal benefit.
Not all diabetics are the same mindset.
Well said @ellagy but more than that, since the OP has not had diabetes he doesn't know if it would work for him either.
Well, I don't know.... I don't want to have muscles where I don't currently have em...I want to look like a woman not an over large Ken doll
I know not all those who are diabetic have the same mind set... I was only speaking for myself
Yes I agree with you. What is upsetting though is when someone from the 80% group feels somehow superior because 'it' whatever 'it' is worked for them and therefore the 20% of us must be doing it wrong. I am doing my best to control my T2 and take exception to someone who isn't diabetic telling me that because something works for them it will work for me. Yep, I'm out of this one now.Like all things in life, cultural differences are an issue.
Whether you are in the majority, or minority, it's hard to accept the advice doesn't apply.
If it applied to you, you see yourself in the majority, and it's to be encouraged.
But, I don't think you are.
I see myself as an (ex) fat bloke.
I ate my way to being diabetic.
So, if I'm in the 80%, if we can be easily fixed, all the resource can be put into the other 20%.
But fixing me won't fix you, but I can be fixed more easily, so I needed to get my head out of my a**e and fix it , (with a bit of help).
So it's not a p**sing match, it's shifting those that can be shifted, then spending the money were it's needed.
Then it gets better for everyone.
Yes I agree with you. What is upsetting though is when someone from the 80% group feels somehow superior because 'it' whatever 'it' is worked for them and therefore the 20% of us must be doing it wrong. I am doing my best to control my T2 and take exception to someone who isn't diabetic telling me that because something works for them it will work for me. Yep, I'm out of this one now.
You may not feel superior, but the OP certainly does. I have no argument with you (this time) douglas lol, just the OP's claim that he has found the cure for all of us.We don't feel superior.
We're just clearing the dross out, so those with problems that aren't simply troughing out get attention.
We know who we are, we know how we got here.
But, if we address it, we're no longer sucking out resource that could be used elsewhere.
You may not feel superior, but the OP certainly does. I have no argument with you (this time) douglas lol, just the OP's claim that he has found the cure for all of us.
Why don't you do a bit of research with real live diabetics and see what happens. Don't expect you will find any volunteers from this forum!
I think I will pass on your ideas OP.... I don't want to be a muscle bound object... I prefer doing it the LCHF way. You carry on and enjoy your way...but please.. do not try to force feed us with the information you seem to have so industriously acquired. What works for you may work for you alone...have you ever considered that!
I think the internet is a bad thing to express emotions.
You can try to help, but the written sentence can't express the body language that a face to face discussion can.
Sometimes, it's needed to look beyond the actual words written, and to imagine the person in front of you.
Imagine them trying to help, and not being simply confrontational.
No one in life sets out to be your enemy, a complete stranger will always be your friend.
(ok, the Daily Mail is keen to report on the 0.00000001% who doesn't follow this rule, but you need to live to 100001 years to find them)
Everyone here has baggage, we need to dump the baggage, we need to help them carry it, sometimes we need to simply have a controlled explosion.
I have a very skinny male friend who has just been diagnosed with type 2. He's lost even more weight and is about 9 stones now, far too little for his frame. How does he fit into this scenario ?
They did think that and he's been to hospital for all the tests. They still say he's type 2 and have told him to try and gain some weight ! He's been slim all his life but is far too thin now.I'm sure someone with much more experience (or any!) can give more info, but is it possible he's actually T1 or LADA? And not every T2 is obese, only about 80%. It can be a genetic predisposition, as I understand it.
They did think that and he's been to hospital for all the tests. They still say he's type 2 and have told him to try and gain some weight ! He's been slim all his life but is far too thin now.
How on earth is he supposed to gain weight if it's dropping off him? I seem to remember that a GAD (?) test can tell the difference between T1 and T2. They need to sort it out, because they are very, very different diseases (as you well know) which need different treatments. He'll need (I think) insulin if he's T1/LADA. It can be diet helped but not diet-controlled.
It is very puzzling. His Hb reading wasn't too bad, 53 I think and he has a fairly good appetite. Recently retired and mid sixties. He's been poked, prodded and tested. They do seem to be trying everything.. I think they are baffled too.
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