Type 2 This book and gram flour

[woollygal]

Anyone seen or used this book?
Friend of mine recommended it as it’s low carb.

However it still uses gram flour in a lot of its recipes.

Anyone got any thoughts on gram flour?

 

[Mr_Pot]

Gram or chickpea flour has a similar percentage of carbs as wheat flour so any advantage would be due to GI. I haven't tried it but I am ok with chickpeas if the portion is small.

 

[Deleted Account]

Gram or chickpea flour has a similar percentage of carbs as wheat flour so any advantage would be due to GI. I haven't tried it but I am ok with chickpeas if the portion is small.

Chickpeas are weird. Some people digest them and some don’t.
So some people see a BG rise with hummus and felafel and others don’t.
The only way to tell is to eat them and test.
Therefore gram flour may not raise BG.

 

[Mr_Pot]

The only say to tell is to at them and text.

This sentence seems to be in code but I have worked it out
I get the same effect with most lentils and legumes - keep the portion small and I am ok. GI is modified by grinding so Gram flour might not be such a good idea.

 

[Deleted Account]

This sentence seems to be in code but I have worked it out .

Looks like autocorrect wasn't as clever as it thought.
I have edited my post to hopefully make more sense.
I blame last night's glass of Port!

 

[Dr Snoddy]

Just looked it up. White wheat flour has 96.5g carb per 100g, whole wheat flour 87g and gram flour 55g. I use gram flour to make the occasion batch of cheese and vegetable fritters - a real treat!

 

[Bittern]

I can tolerate gram flour and lentils in smallish quantities but we are all different so try some and test before and after. If it is OK increase the amount and test again. I suggest because of GI you test at 1, 2 and 3Hrs.

 

[Resurgam]

I over react to the caarbs from the legumes I have tested, getting a higher than expected spike so it really is a case of testing to see how the flour affects you.

 

[woollygal]

How on Earth do you test it though? Do yo just have to make a meal and see what happens?
Potentially one heck of a wasted meal

 

[bulkbiker]

How on Earth do you test it though? Do yo just have to make a meal and see what happens?
Potentially one heck of a wasted meal

That's one way or you could just check out the carb amount and guess that it will probably cause a spike so avoid it totally..

 

[Resurgam]

How on Earth do you test it though? Do yo just have to make a meal and see what happens?
Potentially one heck of a wasted meal

If you work out how many carbs you want to have from the dish containing the gram flour you would replace that amount of carbs in a meal you know you can cope with. If you find that the food then causes a larger than expected, or smaller than expected rise in blood glucose level then you can see what your reaction is to that food.
If you found that the response to xx amount of the food was rather high then you might then divide the remainder of the dish into x amounts and freeze it to eat in future and have safer levels - of you might find that the rest of the dish was eaten anyway, by others at the table and so it is not a problem.

 

[Deleted Account]

That's one way or you could just check out the carb amount and guess that it will probably cause a spike so avoid it totally..

But the point is with carbs in legumes such as chickpeas (the basis of gram flour) , some people do not consume these carbs so they may be OK. They are not equivalent to carbs in wheat flour, for example.

 

[Deleted Account]

How on Earth do you test it though? Do yo just have to make a meal and see what happens?
Potentially one heck of a wasted meal

As you are testing the impact of chickpeas, you could try something smaller such as some hummus rather than making a full meal.

 

[woollygal]

If you work out how many carbs you want to have from the dish containing the gram flour you would replace that amount of carbs in a meal you know you can cope with. If you find that the food then causes a larger than expected, or smaller than expected rise in blood glucose level then you can see what your reaction is to that food.
If you found that the response to xx amount of the food was rather high then you might then divide the remainder of the dish into x amounts and freeze it to eat in future and have safer levels - of you might find that the rest of the dish was eaten anyway, by others at the table and so it is not a problem.

Not sure I’d be able to work that out

 

[Daphne917]

How on Earth do you test it though? Do yo just have to make a meal and see what happens?
Potentially one heck of a wasted meal

Basically yes! If you think about it that’s the only way that many of us can tell what effect a particular food has on our individual BS eg I know that I can eat a slice of bread or a small portion of pasta or mashed potato without too much effect on my BS whereas another person will find that their BS raises to an unacceptable level.

 

[JohnEGreen]

Empiricism is the key try it and see.

 

[bulkbiker]

But the point is with carbs in legumes such as chickpeas (the basis of gram flour) , some people do not consume these carbs so they may be OK. They are not equivalent to carbs in wheat flour, for example.

But the point when going ultra low carb is to avoid as many as possible so there's little point in experimenting? Just avoid..? Most T2's will spike with them - we have a fair bit of anecdotal evidence here and on all the low carb sites which is why peas are avoided even though they are a "green " veg.

 

[Mr_Pot]

But the point when going ultra low carb is to avoid as many as possible so there's little point in experimenting? Just avoid..? Most T2's will spike with them - we have a fair bit of anecdotal evidence here and on all the low carb sites which is why peas are avoided even though they are a "green " veg.

But not all of us are ultra low carb but still doing very nicely with as varied diet as we can.

 

[Resurgam]

But not all of us are ultra low carb but still doing very nicely with as varied diet as we can.

I'm not sure that I understand the difference....

 

[Mr_Pot]

I'm not sure that I understand the difference....

@bulkbiker suggested rather than experiment with legumes just cut them out anyway. That is fair enough if you are on an ultra low carb diet. I just wanted to point out that some of us are on a more liberal diet and want to experiment, so as to include as much variety of food as possible within our limits.