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Thoughts on my levels?

Mafio

Mafio

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Hi guys,

I think I may be pre-diabetic or already T2. I'm seeing a Dr next week to do a test, but looking for opinions on my past data.

1. I have just performed a self test by drinking 410ml of original lucozade from fasted and the readings were:

On waking at 6am: 110 (6.1)
Start of test @ 849am: 104 (5.8)
After 30 mins @ 918am: 166 (9.2)
After 60 mins @ 951am: 135 (7.5)
After 100 mins @ 1029am: 126 (7.0)
After 150 mins @ 11.21am: 94 (5.2)


2. My morning fasted BS levels over the last few weeks have been as per the attached, averaging 108 (6.0).

Before Bed Fasted Morning
Date mmol/L mg/dl mmol/L mg/dl
19/02/2017 7.6 137 6.1 (110)
20/02/2017 7 126 5.6 (101)
21/02/2017 5.5 99 7.5 (135)
22/02/2017 5.9 106 6 108
23/02/2017 5 90 5.6 101
24/02/2017 5.4 97 5.1 92
25/02/2017 5.3 95 5.7 103
26/02/2017 6.3 113 6.1 110
27/02/2017 6.6 119 6.2 112
28/02/2017 5.7 103
01/03/2017 5.4 97
02/03/2017 6.5 117 5.7 103
03/03/2017 6.3 113 6.1 110
04/03/2017 5.6 101
05/03/2017 6.6 119
06/03/2017 7.1 128 7.3 131
07/03/2017 5.1 92 5.7 103
08/03/2017 5.4 97
09/03/2017 7 126 6.2 112
Average 6.2 111.3 6.0 107.6
SD 0.80 14.43 0.60 10.75


3. I tested my HbA1C 1 year a go and it showed i was 27mmol/mol which apparently is in the optimal range (below 48).


Highly appreciate any thoughts!!
 
Mafio said:
I think I may be pre-diabetic or already T2
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I think the first question to ask is why?

None of those number look shabby, quite the opposite. Don't take my word for it, this and other diabetic organisations as well as NICE/NHS all have good guidelines. Just need to Google.
 
DavidGrahamJones said:
I think the first question to ask is why?

None of those number look shabby, quite the opposite. Don't take my word for it, this and other diabetic organisations as well as NICE/NHS all have good guidelines. Just need to Google.
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Thanks for the comment. The reason why is because i was told that i was diabetic when i lived abroad 10 years ago, after doing the glucose test. I then came back to the UK and they reran tests and told me i was fine. Since then and because i'm a bit of a self-quantification nerd i have started tracking my figures. Whilst the recent glucose home test shows good #s (I think?), I believe the fasting figs are very indicative of pre-diab. They average 6.0 and my understanding is this is in the pre-diab range?
 
I always urge caution when the word "range" is used. BG "normal" varies from person to person, and dependent on environmental factors, stress etc etc.

To a type 2 (not a doctor though), I would pay good money for that set of scores!!
 
plutoniumcard said:
I always urge caution when the word "range" is used. BG "normal" varies from person to person, and dependent on environmental factors, stress etc etc.

To a type 2 (not a doctor though), I would pay good money for that set of scores!!
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thanks.
From my notes...

"The current “accepted” recommendations by the ADA for fasting glucose (i.e., no food or drink in the previous 8 hours) are between 70 – 130(!) mg/dL. The exclamation(!) mark is there for a reason. The upper bound is being hotly disputed – in fact, the ADA has a term called “impaired fasting glucose” that was lowered from 110mg/dL (6.1) to 100mg/dL (5.6) in 2003. That means that many people that are classified as “normal” are, in fact, pre-diabetic."

Those with glucose above 85 mg/dL are at increased risk of heart attack
at a minimum, you want to see your fasting glucose below 86 mg/dL."


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Mafio said:
The reason why is because i was told that i was diabetic when i lived abroad 10 years ago, after doing the glucose test.
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Ten years is a long time, it wasn't the U.S. by any chance?

For the majority of healthy individuals, normal blood sugar levels are as follows: Between 4.0 to 6.0 mmol/L (72 to 108 mg/dL) when fasting. Up to 7.8 mmol/L (140 mg/dL) 2 hours after eating. More detail on the diabetes.co.uk website at
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood-sugar-level-ranges.html
 
Mafio said:
thanks.
From my notes...

"The current “accepted” recommendations by the ADA for fasting glucose (i.e., no food or drink in the previous 8 hours) are between 70 – 130(!) mg/dL. The exclamation(!) mark is there for a reason. The upper bound is being hotly disputed – in fact, the ADA has a term called “impaired fasting glucose” that was lowered from 110mg/dL (6.1) to 100mg/dL (5.6) in 2003. That means that many people that are classified as “normal” are, in fact, pre-diabetic....Those with glucose above 85 mg/dL are at increased risk of heart attack
at a minimum, you want to see your fasting glucose below 86 mg/dL."
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Are you in the US?

Only a doctor can diagnose diabetes or pre-diabetes. They use venous blood rather than a fingerprick test and I'm presuming you used a fingerprick. Their test will be more accurate.

You could be worrying yourself unnecessarily. Wait for your appointment, get a proper test and then go from there :)
 
There are 3 diagnostic tests commonly used. (HabA1c, OGGT and FBG) The fasting test is the least significant and why, at least in the UK, is backed up by 2 Hba1c tests before official diagnosis is confirmed. (Unless levels are so high it is indisputable) Even this fasting test is a venous test, analysed at a lab, and not a basic finger prick test using capillary blood with a meter that may not be accurate.

We aren't doctors and can't diagnose you. If it concerns you, see a doctor and get the correct lab analysed tests.
 
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