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Tom Watson.

To quote him
He added: “I kept reading about Labour politicians that died early in their 50s and 60s and I want to get healthy, and actually for me the journey’s been very interesting because what I realise is there’s a lot more we can do in public health to deal with the obesity crisis, because you know we’ve got 10 million of these people heading to diabetes, another 15 million sitting behind them are overweight.

“When you read in the papers or you hear political speeches it’s like we condemn them and we judge people who are overweight and I think this is a nutritional issue that retailers, manufacturers, public health officials and politicians have got to take
seriously.“

Too right
 
DavidGrahamJones said:
Cheers, it sounds like someone pontificating and waxing lyrical about something they have little or no actual knowledge of and certainly no empirical evidence. I'm pleased that Tom Watson has had success with the LCHF diet (he was putting butter in coffee, that's hard core LCHF LOL). Whether one MP in the commons is enough to change attitudes, who knows. I did see one quote that's something I've experienced. Basically you can't be racist, sexist, homophobic, but can say what you like to and about overweight people.
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People need to be challenged on that too. He did talk a little about the weight loss on Preston on Sunday.
 
Squire Fulwood said:
He is deputy leader of the Labour party. It's a sobering thought that we are one general election and one possible scandal away from Tom Watson being be Prime Minister one day.
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Who knows? The Labour Party might do something radical and not automatically promote him to Leader. I don't think he can do any worse than any other leader of any party.

Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't. Mark Twain.
 
My brother recently diagnosed T2, making four siblings now, has been following LCHF on my recommendation. He has lost 2 1/2 stones so far and says he hasn't felt this well in years. I sent, via Facebook the attached picture.

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His youngest son, who is a fitness trainer with a degree in what he does, replied to the post as follow:-

Whilst I agree with the sentiments in this post.
Two things we must always remember.

1. Never trust any infographic that doesn’t quote its sources
2. Nowhere on this graphic does it show/link the reduction in movement/exercise and obesity.

Sugar obviously is an issue, but we have to remember that the bottom line in obesity is always calories in vs calories out.

You can eat as much sugar as you want as long as you work the equivalent amount of calories off.

(And also the picture of the banana annoys me, as I’m 31 and I’ve never known a supermarket to not stock bananas all year round)

This is my reply to him:-

I will send you a link about calories in/calories out. http://www.caloriegate.com/.../9-more-experts-lay-waste.... You can't exercise your way out of a bad diet. I do not count calories and I have lost 5 stone. Your father has T2 diabetes so the best eating regime for him is LCHF. I am now 'in remission'. Please do not try and persuade him that he shouldn't be doing LCHF. His health matters.

He hasn't replied.
 
carol43 said:
My brother recently diagnosed T2, making four siblings now, has been following LCHF on my recommendation. He has lost 2 1/2 stones so far and says he hasn't felt this well in years. I sent, via Facebook the attached picture.

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His youngest son, who is a fitness trainer with a degree in what he does, replied to the post as follow:-

Whilst I agree with the sentiments in this post.
Two things we must always remember.

1. Never trust any infographic that doesn’t quote its sources
2. Nowhere on this graphic does it show/link the reduction in movement/exercise and obesity.

Sugar obviously is an issue, but we have to remember that the bottom line in obesity is always calories in vs calories out.

You can eat as much sugar as you want as long as you work the equivalent amount of calories off.

(And also the picture of the banana annoys me, as I’m 31 and I’ve never known a supermarket to not stock bananas all year round)

This is my reply to him:-

I will send you a link about calories in/calories out. http://www.caloriegate.com/.../9-more-experts-lay-waste.... You can't exercise your way out of a bad diet. I do not count calories and I have lost 5 stone. Your father has T2 diabetes so the best eating regime for him is LCHF. I am now 'in remission'. Please do not try and persuade him that he shouldn't be doing LCHF. His health matters.

He hasn't replied.
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Malhotra recently said that the CICO hypothesis is dead; and Fung says it makes no sense. Let's hope he follows your advice and not his son's.
 
carol43 said:
1. Never trust any infographic that doesn’t quote its sources
2. Nowhere on this graphic does it show/link the reduction in movement/exercise and obesity.
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Just remind him that this is an infographic also.

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So by his rules not to be trusted.
 
carol43 said:
This is my reply to him:-

I will send you a link about calories in/calories out. http://www.caloriegate.com/.../9-more-experts-lay-waste.... You can't exercise your way out of a bad diet. I do not count calories and I have lost 5 stone. Your father has T2 diabetes so the best eating regime for him is LCHF. I am now 'in remission'. Please do not try and persuade him that he shouldn't be doing LCHF. His health matters.

He hasn't replied.
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1000 x 'likes'
 
carol43 said:
You can eat as much sugar as you want as long as you work the equivalent amount of calories off.
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As indeed did the wonderful rower Sir Steve Redgrave, initially diagnosed as type II while consuming 7,000 calories a day. I suppose to be fair we'd have to look at other athletes consuming large number of calories to maintain an exercise regime.
 
I read the Guardian report on Tom Watson.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ight-loss-realise-scale-obesity-crisis-labour
Which linked early on to this article from 2014.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-butter-to-your-morning-coffee-a-step-too-far
which seemed to be an opinion piece designed to put down hipsters written by ... ummmm... references to the Sin of Onan O.K.?
The article (apart from being sidelined by focusing the people trying to sell specialist coffee beans and MCT oils which aren't really necessary) seemed to be focused on giving you a mental edge in the workplace.
No mention of it being a key tool in a sensible weight loss diet.
No mention of it being a high energy low carbohydrate drink good for diabetics, either.

More power to Tom Watson's elbow.
 
DavidGrahamJones said:
As indeed did the wonderful rower Sir Steve Redgrave, initially diagnosed as type II while consuming 7,000 calories a day. I suppose to be fair we'd have to look at other athletes consuming large number of calories to maintain an exercise regime.
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I would imagine that as a rower the vast majority of those calories were from carbs too.. if only Sami Inkinen had been around when Steve Redgrave was starting out he might have avoided diabetes altogether and maybe improved his performance on a ketogenic diet!
 
Just seen on Twitter that Sam Feltham from the PHC has offered to get in touch with Mr Watson .. maybe some good will come of it.. just need to get him to team up with Keith Vaz and get the Houses of Parliament restaurants to go low carb.... what a thought!
 
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