Hi newbie here looking for some reassurance. I’m 51 with a BMI of 41 and a horrendous sugar habit. I had gestational diabetes 12 years ago and was diagnosed as pre-diabetic just before lockdown and stupidly didn’t do anything about it. I was recently admitted to hospital following a severe asthma attack and had bloods which confirmed hba1c of 62. I’ve also had quite severe blurred vision for over a week. I’m sorting my diet by reducing carbs, upping protein etc and have been testing regularly pre and post meals but readings are averaging 16 with the odd spike up to 23. I’m following up with my GP on Wednesday for more tests but won’t get to see the doctor for at least another week. I am trying hard not to panic in the meantime but younger sister died following complications from diabetes 3 years ago so it’s hard not to go there. I guess the thing that’s worrying me most is my eyesight and whether it will return to normal. I’m drinking 4-5 litres of water a day and normally walk a fair bit with the dog but am struggling with this at the moment due to asthma/chest infection. Not sure whether meds could impact blood sugar too but I’m desperate to try and get it down so I can see properly again. I would be very grateful for any words of wisdom or advice.
Hello @ZoeMobley and welcome.
First may I say how sorry I am that you have lost your sister to diabetes complications. That followed by a pandemic, and all the angst that has caused people, so it is hardly surprising you are feeling in a panic.
Do you have a confirmation of type of diabetes yet?
What meds have been prescribed? Some could cause fluctuations in blood glucose especially if you have drastically reduced carbs suddenly.
I also have asthma, and a too high BMI, so understand your struggles. Steroid meds do cause me to have higher blood glucose levels.
The eyesight and blurry vision problems were resolved once my blood glucose returned to normal.
If your BG levels remain so high, or are fluctuating greatly between those averages, it would be wise to seek doctor’s advice earlier than your appointment.
Hello @ZoeMobley and welcome.
First may I say how sorry I am that you have lost your sister to diabetes complications. That followed by a pandemic, and all the angst that has caused people, so it is hardly surprising you are feeling in a panic.
Do you have a confirmation of type of diabetes yet?
What meds have been prescribed? Some could cause fluctuations in blood glucose especially if you have drastically reduced carbs suddenly.
I also have asthma, and a too high BMI, so understand your struggles. Steroid meds do cause me to have higher blood glucose levels.
The eyesight and blurry vision problems were resolved once my blood glucose returned to normal.
If your BG levels remain so high, or are fluctuating greatly between those averages, it would be wise to seek doctor’s advice earlier than your appointment.
If I don’t drink that much I get headaches and cramp in my feetWelcome to the forum.
I suggest that you moderate the amount of water you are drinking - over a gallon a day is too much.
What are you eating is going to be far more significant if you are a type 2.
Hi @ZoeMobley and congrats on giving low carb way of eating a try.If I don’t drink that much I get headaches and cramp in my feet
Wow! Thanks so much Ian for taking the time to put together such an informative reply. I actually did a VLCD many years ago and had completely forgotten all the stuff you’ve just explained so now at least those symptoms are making sense! I’ll look into the supplements but I’ve just grabbed an emergency drink of hot Bovril which should help thanks for the advice and reassurance on the BG levels too. I think you’re right to suggest that I focus on what I’m eating because that’s the only thing I can actually control at the moment, rather than stressing about the reading. I’ll keep doing them to show my GP when I see him as I guess this will help when deciding what medication I might need. Really appreciate your inputHi @ZoeMobley and congrats on giving low carb way of eating a try.
Did anybody tell you to take electrolytes to counter what is known as Atkins or Keto Flu? Some people get these in the form of bone broth, other like me take straight supplements (sodium, potassium and magnesium).
So yes, if you take too little salt on low carb you can suffer headaches and cramps! I take mine in the form of what is generically called 'Lo Salt@ available own brand from major supermarkets. It is a mixture of 2/3rd potassium chloride and 1/3rs Sodium chloride (i.e. table salt).
I take the magnesium in the form of Magnesium Glycinate (rather than the normal Magnesium Citrate) because I tend to suffer from loose bowels rather than constipation.
My stupid GP tried to tell me that as far as both salt and LDL cholesterol were concerned, the lower the better (despite both being necessary for life itself). When I told him this about salt he then said 'well we all get more than enough in our take-away meals'.
So I had to say that I didn't eat take-aways because we nearly always cook from scratch and add no salt when cooking.
So far as medications, what you are currently on will probably be raising your Blood Glucose to a certain extent. Steroids and Statins are usually the worst, but infections and the anti-biotics for those can also raise it as can stress and lack of sleep.
It's for this reason I always suggest paying little attention to background Blood Glucose levels (which can be strongly influenced by our livers) and just concentrate on what you can actually control which is what you eat, how much and when.
So test just before and then 2hrs after each meal and aim to get the BG spike from every meal to 2.0 mmols at most.
If you can manage that and if you are simply a Type 2, then the rest will come down naturally as you reduce (or come off) medication and as your liver gets used to lower BG in your body and so stops trying to make it higher.
Hi and welcome. Both the chest infection and the prednisolone are likely to temporarily raise your blood sugar which may be why your go isn’t too concerned, but definitely keep an eye on it and seek advice again if it goes any higher.
the good news is that an HbA1c of 62 can be lowered. If you look at my signature you will see mine was in the 70s a year ago when I decided to try low carb. My last test was 44….I’m aiming to get to 40 if I can. I do gentle exercise swimming two or three times a week and walking sometimes, but the bulk of the difference has been caused by changing my diet and restricting carbs. You will hear many other similar stories on here.
Thanks for sharing your experience that must have been absolutely terrifying for you but I really appreciate your honesty. I’d rather know worse case scenario. I wear varifocals too and last had an eye test and new glasses 6 months ago. At the moment I can still see close up but the tv is a bit of a blur and I’m not risking driving but at least you’ve given me some hope it’ll be ok eventually!Hi, I am all new to this too so can only offer some consolation regarding your eyesight - mine was going a bit 'wrong' for a couple of weeks before I was diagnosed (HbA1C 129.5!!), I thought it was my glasses, but now I know it was the high BG. However once I started on medication to lower my BG, and went lower carb, my eyesight got worse and worse and for about 3 weeks I couldn't see any detail in anything; started off just unable to read little text on my phone to having to use a 3x magnifying glass just to see the TV! It was scary and my diabetes nurse and doctor didn't warn me or seemed to care much.
I did go to the opticians, I was just about able to see the other side of the room when using the strong reading part of my varifocals, but they said that although my prescription had obviously changed, but I would not order new glasses for at least 12 weeks because chances were I would go back to 'normal' but then. It took about another 3 weeks to get pretty much back to normal so I could read, watch TV and drive again, but it felt like forever.
From what I found on here, (when I could eventually see enough), I learnt it's quite common, so the panic receded a little, but until I was able to start picking things out in the distance and could read by squinting, I was convinced it was never coning back.
So have faith - please be warned it might get a lot worse before it gets better, but if you can see clearly with a magnifying glass, I reckon you will be OK. Fingers crossed for you x
Hi @ZoeMobley
Welcome to the club no one wants to join
So sorry to hear about your sister
Your DX must Have brought back on such a personal level how serious diabetes could be.
I had none of that, yet was still shaken once reading up after my DX , so i sympathise with any anxiety.
And as a fellow asthmatic, I can fully understand the scare any attack can bring, particularly one severe enough to bring you into hospital..
Then the added chest infection..oh dear , You really have been out through the wringer.
Many good & useful replies
But let's see what's what first
62...mmhh I was at 58 at start, and 9 months later was lucky enough to hit 40 HBA1c, so there is plenty of hope
For a lot of us, a rise in BG can be an early sign that a cold or illness is on way
So that chest infection alone plus Meds will likely rise your BG levels, as others state.
As for BG levels, I found my levels dropped 1 mmol each month on average
For example in October I started at 10 most days, regardless of my new diet, yet by the end my average score each week was dropping closer to 9, and so on into each month .so nothing immediate, but a steady drop over time as the diet kicked in deeper until 6's and the elusive 5's were much more common.
It's taken us many years to fill up so much space inside ourselves with the glucose we are no longer able to tolerate as easily as we once did or as others non diabetic do with ease.
So a little while decanting ourselves of the unwanted sugars inside us, seems a rather short delay, In the scheme if things, if it helps us to better health
I think @ianf0ster , sums up most of it best
Deal with what you can make a difference on
Your diet, your BG levels will lower over time once you lower the carbs.
On a side note, All that excess glucose seems to exacerbate inflammation in the body for many .
We put it down to other things, getting older, etc and just accept it, but perhaps LC could help
Some benefit with their arthritis easing,
I found that my asthma became much more manageable and that constant 'coughing' I got most mornings pretty much disappeared
(Be worth keeping an eye on it, to see if yours follow suit )
You mention cramps, many post on here over the year, a similar tale.
I was one of them (low carb can equal much lower salt intake ) and I found a magnesium spray (external) worked well for immediate relief, until my magnesium supplements kicked in.
Your best step was finding here
A forum full of first hand advice, from those who have sat exactly where you sit now,
And we were all as frightened, confused & anxious as you are.
You couldn't be in a better place to learn from others own stories what worked for them & ways that might work for you.
Best wishes moving forward .
Don't be afraid to ask question.
I asked loads, most probably seemed dumb to those more aware, but I got nothing but helpful, caring responses back.
We all have a different route
But our goals are the same ..
Good luck on your journey x
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