Type 1 becomes Type 2????

[abcd99]

I am just anxious to know that did it ever happen that someone with Type 1D was later on diagnosed as Type 2D because his/her pancreas that failed to make insulin creating cells , with time and healthy food started to work again..... can type 1 ever become type 2 .I am asking this because recently I read that type 1D cannot be reversed but type 2D can bring hopes..........with healthy green foods.
Will wait for your responses.

 

[catapillar]

No. A person with type 1 has an incurable life long condition where their immune system has killed off insulin producing beta cells. Type 2 is a completely different condition of insulin resistance and hyperinsulimia. Someone with type 1 can become insulin resistant, but they can't ever start producing more insulin (a key factor in type 2 diabetes) because they can't produce any insulin.

If cpeptide tests have shown you are producing low insulin and antibody testing have confirmed a type 1 diagnosis there is currently no known way to reverse it. If you have a query over whether type 1 is the right diagnosis what was your weight at diagnosis? What were your blood sugar and ketones at diagnosis? What is your total daily dose of insulin and are you managing without hypos?

 

[abcd99]

No. A person with type 1 has an incurable life long condition where their immune system has killed off insulin producing beta cells. Type 2 is a completely different condition of insulin resistance and hyperinsulimia. Someone with type 1 can become insulin resistant, but they can't ever start producing more insulin (a key factor in type 2 diabetes) because they can't produce any insulin.

If cpeptide tests have shown you are producing low insulin and antibody testing have confirmed a type 1 diagnosis there is currently no known way to reverse it. If you have a query over whether type 1 is the right diagnosis what was your weight at diagnosis? What were your blood sugar and ketones at diagnosis? What is your total daily dose of insulin and are you managing without hypos?

I knew this but still always want to ask with the hope that may be some day someone will say that yes their beta cells are making insulin again...........as a mother of 26 year old son diagnosed as type 1 since last 4 months, can not give up hope........hope gives strength......thanks for your clear reply.........but if you hear something new........do let me know..........

 

[Scott-C]

can not give up hope.

I can understand your concerns as a parent, but there is plenty of room for hope and optimism. I was dx'd T1 at 21 and am still going strong 30 years later. It's not held me back any: I've had a professional career, travelled widely, played many sports. I recall from earlier posts your son is at university. If he's smart enough to get to uni, he's smart enough to figure out the ground rules of managing insulin. He'll be fine.

 

[abcd99]

I can understand your concerns as a parent, but there is plenty of room for hope and optimism. I was dx'd T1 at 21 and am still going strong 30 years later. It's not held me back any: I've had a professional career, travelled widely, played many sports. I recall from earlier posts your son is at university. If he's smart enough to get to uni, he's smart enough to figure out the ground rules of managing insulin. He'll be fine.

Thank you so much. You see people like you are like light of Hope, your positive attitude, your strength becomes reason to smile for depressed lost people like us...........30 years..... wow..........did some good girl came up and held your hand.......are you married........reply only if you want.......have a great day and thanks again.

 

[Nidge247]

I am just anxious to know that did it ever happen that someone with Type 1D was later on diagnosed as Type 2D because his/her pancreas that failed to make insulin creating cells , with time and healthy food started to work again..... can type 1 ever become type 2 .I am asking this because recently I read that type 1D cannot be reversed but type 2D can bring hopes..........with healthy green foods.
Will wait for your responses.

@abcd99

You could have a mis-diagnosed T1 / 1.5 who is reclassified as a T2.

I am T1.5 but managed to come off insulin altogether with use of LCHF, and my pancreas is once again producing enough insulin to cover my low carb lifestyle.
If I am told in the future I am a T2, then it will have been an original mis-diagnosis - even though many of my original symptoms were identifying T1 rather than T2 (due to my age, it's classed as T1.5 LADA).

I do not feel that LCHF is a cure for D, but a successful way (for many people) to manage the condition successfully with little interference to life.

 

[EllieM]

They've been promising a "cure" for T1 in 10 years for as long as I've been a T1 (maybe it was 20 years when I started in 1970?) and I've accepted that I'll be on insulin for the rest of my life... But, for the current generation of young T1s I think there really might be a cure in their life times.... The available treatments certainly seem to be evolving and improving very rapidly.

 

[AdamJames]

I am just anxious to know that did it ever happen that someone with Type 1D was later on diagnosed as Type 2D because his/her pancreas that failed to make insulin creating cells , with time and healthy food started to work again..... can type 1 ever become type 2 .I am asking this because recently I read that type 1D cannot be reversed but type 2D can bring hopes..........with healthy green foods.
Will wait for your responses.

There have been some interesting experiments with mice which do give some hope in that regard: https://www.nhs.uk/news/diabetes/fasting-diet-may-help-regenerate-a-diabetic-pancreas/

But I'd agree with @Scott-C, the best source of hope is already here - science and education is already allowing people with Type 1 to live long and happy lives with no need to reverse it.

 

[rmz80]

I posted this on another thread which is relevant although from 2011

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/8355334/100000-received-wrong-diabetes-diagnosis.html

 

[DavidGrahamJones]

Will wait for your responses.

You might like to read https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4317303/ which I was directed to by
Alison Campbell on the thread Can you eat anything with type 2 diabetes. A very interesting article which looks into Beta cell function.

 

[Robinredbreast]

I am a long time type 1, 29th year, but last year when I went to my diabetes nurse appointment at my surgery ( once a year, but see my diabetes specialist at the hospital) she started to read out from the screen and apparently my new GP
( who I was told specialises in Diabetes !) had changed me to 'late onset Type 2' and the nurse said "only children and adolescent's are diagnosed with type 1" My hospital diabetes team told me to ignore my GP, but it hasn't given me much faith at all in the medical professionals, I was gobsmacked to say the least and I told the diabetes nurse that was incorrect about type 2 and tbh, I would rather not see her again So in that respect, it's a yes to your question, but in reality, I would think not, but someday there may be a very rare and unique diabetes case out there, who knows

 

[abcd99]

I am a long time type 1, 29th year, but last year when I went to my diabetes nurse appointment at my surgery ( once a year, but see my diabetes specialist at the hospital) she started to read out from the screen and apparently my new GP
( who I was told specialises in Diabetes !) had changed me to 'late onset Type 2' and the nurse said "only children and adolescent's are diagnosed with type 1" My hospital diabetes team told me to ignore my GP, but it hasn't given me much faith at all in the medical professionals, I was gobsmacked to say the least and I told the diabetes nurse that was incorrect about type 2 and tbh, I would rather not see her again So in that respect, it's a yes to your question, but in reality, I would think not, but someday there may be a very rare and unique diabetes case out there, who knows

Thank you for your honest reply. I too hope..........Hope is life.......lets keep hoping.........someday.......it will happen.

 

[abcd99]

There have been some interesting experiments with mice which do give some hope in that regard: https://www.nhs.uk/news/diabetes/fasting-diet-may-help-regenerate-a-diabetic-pancreas/

But I'd agree with @Scott-C, the best source of hope is already here - science and education is already allowing people with Type 1 to live long and happy lives with no need to reverse it.

You are right. Thanks for your reply.

 

[Mike d]

It is not a cost issue, It is not a type issue. It is a human issue

 

[abcd99]

@abcd99

You could have a mis-diagnosed T1 / 1.5 who is reclassified as a T2.

I am T1.5 but managed to come off insulin altogether with use of LCHF, and my pancreas is once again producing enough insulin to cover my low carb lifestyle.
If I am told in the future I am a T2, then it will have been an original mis-diagnosis - even though many of my original symptoms were identifying T1 rather than T2 (due to my age, it's classed as T1.5 LADA).

I do not feel that LCHF is a cure for D, but a successful way (for many people) to manage the condition successfully with little interference to life.

Yes.......I am watching a lot now , LCHF (keto) is what people are talking about.......I really seems to be healthy if followed correctly. Thanks for your reply.

 

[Dodo]

I am a long time type 1, 29th year, but last year when I went to my diabetes nurse appointment at my surgery ( once a year, but see my diabetes specialist at the hospital) she started to read out from the screen and apparently my new GP
( who I was told specialises in Diabetes !) had changed me to 'late onset Type 2' and the nurse said "only children and adolescent's are diagnosed with type 1" My hospital diabetes team told me to ignore my GP, but it hasn't given me much faith at all in the medical professionals, I was gobsmacked to say the least and I told the diabetes nurse that was incorrect about type 2 and tbh, I would rather not see her again So in that respect, it's a yes to your question, but in reality, I would think not, but someday there may be a very rare and unique diabetes case out there, who knows

I find this very worrying coming from a diabetes nurse. Does she think that Type 1 diabetes disappears after adolescence? Or are we just supposed to die off!

 

[JMK1954]

It's even more worrying that a GP has amended a patient's records incorrectly. I would change my GP in these circumstances.