• Guest - w'd love to know what you think about the forum! Take the 2025 Survey »

Type 1 Caused by lifestyle?

Gary Thom

Member
Messages
16
Location
Dublin
Type of diabetes
Type 1
Treatment type
Insulin
I was reading an a story in The Herald today talking about a study to investigate whether or not there may be a link between lifestyle and type 1 diabetes. The idea is that poor lifestyle causes direct damage to beta cells and these damaged cells are then attacked my the immune system, finishing them off.

In my opinion it's certainly NOT the case that all Type 1 diabetes are caused by lifestyle or even a sizeable minority of cases. Given a lot of people have diabetes from infancy it's hardly likely to have been caused by lifestyle! However, the triggers aren't very well known as this seems like as good a theory as any for a small number of cases of adults getting diabetes?

I appreciate I'm only a sample size of 1 but when I was diagnosed I was really shockingly unhealthy. Obese, drinking too much, eating terribly and so on. I was sure I had type 2 and my GP suspected as much as well until my ketone results came back which were sky high. So could there be a link for SOME people? I was actually always glad 1 was Type I rather than Type 2, partly because I felt like I hadn't brought it on myself, but perhaps I did? If I did though I don't think it would bother me as much now as it would have back then given the very positive force diabetes has been in my life in terms of sorting out my health.

 
I think lifestyle - or rather life - can bring Type 1 on earlier than it might have happened otherwise eg some women get Type 1 during pregnancy (extra strain on pancreas) and some people finally tip over into Type 1 after a period of illness, but no, I don't think it's lifestyle related, at least only in the broadest sense.

I was told by my consultant that Type 1 is an auto immune disease and who I asked what had caused it, she said it was 20% genes and 80% environmental. She said the 'environment' was what they were still unsure about - that is, what triggered the Type 1 - a virus, milk, wheat, bacteria, etc etc.
 
When you consider that a high % of people are diagnosed as children then it seems impossible that it's triggered by lifestyle.

However personally I think it can be triggered by many factors, so it could be lifestyle related, why though think that it's just one factor ? I know there is a higher incidence of type 1 in northern hemisphere countries, so possible sunshine/vitamin d link, and also people are diagnosed after illness so the attack starts with illness depressing the immune system. Maybe this is where we are going wrong and trying to pinpoint a particular reason rather than many, it's how the immune system responds and perhaps if we focus more on strengthening immune systems then this could prevent many from becoming type 1 ?
 
The question is what is meant by "lifestyle". There may be something in a person's "lifestyle" that triggers T1 but there is so much evidence out there that shows it's not eating unhealthily or being overweight; it's something we don't know. Stress of some kind? Lack of vitamin D? A virus? Who knows.

I actually take issue with the article you posted. Saying "Previously scientists believed type 1 diabetes was an autoimmune disorder caused by a faulty immune system which attacks and destroys insulin-producing beta cells in the pancreas" is SO wrong and misleading. It's not "previously", it's still the case.
 
Whilst lifestyle *may* have an effect (personally I think not). It's definitely not the case in the vast majority of people. I was diagnosed at 16 months (just after on of the childhood jabs) so I think the autoimmune idea is far more likely (it got stressed by the jab and that kicked the whole thing off...)
 
The auto immune response has been proven, I believe. There may be things that speed up the develop of Type 1 but that's all, in my opinion.
 

I agree. The Herald's standards have fallen off a cliff recently though so I'm not surprised.
 
It's an interesting theory - I myself am diagnosed type 2, but have other autoimmune conditions and so have other members of my direct family. There seems to be an increasing number of people suffering from a number of autoimmune related disorders and it would be a huge leap if scientist could find a link with something in the environment that triggers these attacks on susceptible people. Sadly the word "lifestyle" used in conjunction with "diabetes" is usually taken to mean overeating and being sedentary - which we all know is not the case in type 1 and often not the case in other types.
 
I agree. The Herald's standards have fallen off a cliff recently though so I'm not surprised.

Complain if you think it's inaccurate. There's enough confusion about diabetes without any more being added!
 

Regarding the lack of vitamin D-hypothesis, I'd just like to remind that Sardinia is amongst the
regions with the highest T1 incidence in Europe, yet it is a very warm and sunny place, with no big industrial cities and a thoroughly 'Mediterranean' lifestyle as for diet, rural living, sunlight exposure, moderate drinking and so on. So, well, I think research still has a long way to go…
 

Mine was 'triggered' by shock, stress and upset and yes, an auto immune condition. My then 2 1/2 year old granddaughter was diagnosed with type 1 ? so I would definitely say not 'lifestyle' or mine come to that.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Hi,

Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disorder. Muddying the waters with issues of 'lifestyle', is I feel distinctly unhelpful. Particularly given the negative public perception of diabetes whether T1 or T2.
 

I got another auto immune condition, Coeliac, when I was going though another worrying and a very stressful time.
 
I got another auto immune condition, Coeliac, when I was going though another worrying and a very stressful time.
Hi @Robinredbreast I was also diagnosed with Graves disease shortly after a family bereavement and believe stress played a part in triggering an autoimmune response. I guess it is all a part of the human condition.
 
Hi,

Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disorder. Muddying the waters with issues of 'lifestyle', is I feel distinctly unhelpful. Particularly given the negative public perception of diabetes whether T1 or T2.
Why is it unhelpful? The fact that it is an autoimmune disorder has no relevance to this discussion. AIDS is also an autoimmune disorder and for some....that could have been avoided.

Furthermore, why is it "Unhelpful" to at least CONSIDER the possibility that type 1 and type 2 are similar in that lifestyle COULD have contributed to the disease for some people while for others it was inevitable? Maybe "Type 1" encompasses many different types of auto-immune diabetes, some of which could have been avoided.

I see nothing wrong with discussing a topic that is largely unproven, and very possibly could be (partially) true.
 
Professor Wilkin (Exeter) was on the Today programme this morning talking about this - it is a huge trial aimed at testing every child in Scotland with a parent or sibling with type 1, if the test show they are at high risk they will be put on metformin in the hope that this will protect the beta cells from "stressors" that they suspect are accelorating the rate of beta cell loss.

They don't know what the stressors are, but the rate of type 1 is increasing, so they hypothesise that it must be something (some unidentified thing) about modern living that stresses the beta cells, this stress flags them up to the immune system and gets them totally killed off.

I admit, when heard that it made me itch, because when they say "life style" or modern living I just hear fat. But that really really isn't what they are saying at all (that's just my own media brain washing) they say there is maybe something, some external factor is stressing out the pancreases of people with a pre disposition to an over active immune system. They are just trying to figure out how to stop impact of the stress (possibly with metformin) so as to either prolong insulin production or to catch it befor the immune system catches sight of the stressed out beta cells and goes nuclear on them (which would mean, hooray, no type 1 diabetes for that kid on the metformin). I didn't hear anyone offer an explaination for what causes the stress; the vague term of lifestyle was used, but that covers literally everything - yes it could mean the classic diet and exercise, it could also mean stress/trauma, it could mean some increase in chemical/additive etc in the "modern diet".

It's really hard (for me anyway) to hear "type 1 diabetes might be caused by lifestyle" and not think they mean it was your fault. But I really don't think that's what this study is saying & it wasn't what they were saying on the radio this morning - I haven't read the articles mind.

Here's the Exeter press release / website - http://www.exeter.ac.uk/news/featurednews/title_506628_en.html
 

Often, the deprived area's have the largest amount of people with diabetes. So, could this factor be the same in the suburbs of Scotland. Could it be down to the poorer area's, poor lifestyles ie parents on benefits, out of work, cheap processed foods, poor housing, smoking, alcohol or children under achieving at school ? There is definitely a rise happening in the 21st century ?
 
I'm type 3.5 but not sure if I'm in the 'lifestyle' category, as much as I kicked the **** out of life at the time it's not the cause IMO.
 
There is definitely a rise happening in the 21st century ?

I think it's something like 4% annual increase in incidence of type 1 - http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/51/12/3353.full - this article charts the rise from discovery of insulin & considers a lot of potential factors in the increase, from type 1 genes actually surviving (thanks insulin), to cows milk, to children's growth rate picking up & putting more stress on the pancreas.

I have no idea about the other questions & I don't think the research community are pretending to know the answers either. But here's hoping that those are things this study looks at cos if they can find a hint at a cause, maybe they can do something to stave off the cause. Ever the optimist
 
Cookies are required to use this site. You must accept them to continue using the site. Learn More.…