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Type 2 and lost

lisaclare

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes about 3 weeks ago. I saw the doctor after I had some blood tests taken and that is when she told me. The Dr said I was to make a 30 minute appointment with the diabetic nurse and asked me to cut down on the sugar. I explained that I didn't have a lot of sugar in my diet and I only treated myself to a bun/cake once a week when doing the weekly shop. I left the Dr and proceeded to reception to book another appointment this time to see the diabetic nurse. Later that day back at the surgery the nurse told me that I had type 2 diabetes as my readings were 68 then 64 after fasting. She told me a normal reading is 48. What are these numbers??? She then informed me that she was going to refer me to a diabetic specialist and dietitian as I needed no medication just a healthy diet. I told her I had lost weight already due to changing my eating patterns and exercise. I was told I would have a blood test every six months to check my levels. After 15 minutes I left the nurse no wiser as she had said exactly the same as the Dr. I have since received a letter inviting me to 2 sessions (group) each running for 2 1/2 hours later this month. I'm worried of eating the wrong thing as I've been told nothing. I've changed my bread, rice and pasta to wholemeal (I now don't eat bread) I don't have crisps, or chocolate just salad and berries. My birthday is coming up and I have a family meal booked but to be honest I'm slightly scared of eating anything. Sorry for the long comment but I just don't know what I'm doing and nobody has explained anything.
 
Hi

Unfortunately most of us have been where you are. The information and support offered on diagnosis is frequently woeful.

The numbers you are quoting will be your HbA1c results, which in simple terms will equate to your average Blood Glucose over the previous couple of months.

Over 47 is deemed a Type 2 Diabetic, and below 42 is "normal"

I was diagnosed at 88 last year and within three months was in the low 30's so it is possible to make dramatic improvements quickly if you follow the right path.

@daisy1 will give you a copy of the standard welcome post that will give you some basic information.

Take note of the information about Carbohydrates and its affect on Blood Glucose. As a T2D you will likely have an adverse reaction to Carbs, and some form of insulin resistance which stops you processing them properly.

This forum and site is a great source of help and support.

Ask any question you wish and people will help.
 
Hi @lisaclare I will tag @daisy1 who can provide you with some invaluable information.
This maybe tomorrow now since it's so late in the evening.
Have you been given a testing meter from your diabetic nurse?
Please invest in one as testing is going to be your biggest asset.
On testing. Test every food to discover what increases your blood level. If it increases more than 2-3 higher 2hrs after eating it is a little treat but many foods won't increase your level so are safe to eat.
Don't eat too much protein thou as this can eventually increase your good levels.
Have a look under low carb diet in the nutrition and diet threads for a list of mostly good choices in your diet.
Most people find bread, pasta, potato and cereal increase their sugar levels.
Eggs, cheese and double cream are great on our bgs too.
Healthy oils and occasional butter is a must.
None root veg is the backbone of a good type 2 diet.
Nuts are good for fibre but too many are calorific. I save mine for a treat.
90%dark chocolate is ok which I melt into double cream and add stevia sweetner for a beautiful choc sauce but avoid fruit. Just berries seem a winner. Not too many thou.
I hope this helps. Vicky :-)
 
@lisaclare - Hello and Welcome to the Forum :). As @ickihun has already said, invest and buy a meter and test your blood sugar to see what foods you can eat and those to avoid. We are all different and what one person can eat and no have effect on their blood sugar another can eat and it can send their blood sugars much higher. Most forum members use the SD Codefree Blood Glucose Meter as the test strips are the cheapest to buy. Always state you are Diabetic for vat exemption and you need mmol for the UK. Take a look at this site:
http://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/codefree-blood-glucose-monitoring
 
@lisaclare
Hi and welcome,
It is very confusing and scary, and I am but a few steps ahead of you .... And to an extent still scared and bewildered! The advice I was given IS totally sound, cut down on sugary stuff (absolute common sense), eat a healthy diet, lose weight - if you need to (I did), and good regular exercise, which it sounds like you are doing already.
This AND other sites are a good resource of info so look around at what it all means, and am sure before long 'the numbers' will fall into place. For reference, my starting 'number' was 97 (eeeek!), but just over 2 months in is now 53 .... and expected to fall further by applying the above principles - I am not (and nor do I want!) any medication. You are starting from a better place so sure you can achieve success quickly.
I give you a word of caution without wanting to steer you in a particular direction as others will! ....... You will be given often contradictory and conflicting information and advice as to what to do, what to eat.... and vice versa by HCPs and well meaning others - who likely as not have completely opposing views. The only advice I would give is take the information and decide what is best for YOU at this time, you don't need to decide everything yesterday, today or tomorrow - this is a long process.
Also, give the NHS a chance. In my experience they have come through for me, and my practice have been incredibly supportive at a time I genuinely needed it. They have surprised me, and I have amazed them with what I have done in responding to my new 'label'.
The very best of Luck
 
@lisaclare

Hello lisaclare and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. In particular it gives advice on carbs so you can make your diet choices, and contains a link to the Low Carb Program. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi and welcome. Do look at the @daisy1 post. As others have said, keep the carbs down and have protein and fats to keep you feeling full and to provide a range of nutrients. Veg is fine of course and so is non-tropical fruit. Your blood test readings indicate that it was the HBa1C blood test that you will be given every 6 months or so. It is no longer a fasting test. Can you let us know what you weight/BMI is as that can indicate whether you have insulin resistance thru excess weight and may need some meds over the coming months if just diet isn't enough. Let us know if you are slim and have lost weight recently unexpectedly. Do get hold of a meter as it will guide you on what foods affect you most and also show you whether your new diet is working. The HBa1C test remains an excellent and reliable test as it measures your average blood sugar over the last few months. For you next appointment you may have to book this yourself and make sure you get a blood and urine test done around 2 weeks before so the results are available at the review.
 
With regards to my weight/BMI I am 5ft 2 and weigh 14 stone however I weighed 15st 5pounds 6 months ago. I have an under active thyroid which I've had since I was 20 I am now 43
 
@lisaclare
Hi and welcome,
It is very confusing and scary, and I am but a few steps ahead of you .... And to an extent still scared and bewildered! The advice I was given IS totally sound, cut down on sugary stuff (absolute common sense), eat a healthy diet, lose weight - if you need to (I did), and good regular exercise, which it sounds like you are doing already.
This AND other sites are a good resource of info so look around at what it all means, and am sure before long 'the numbers' will fall into place. For reference, my starting 'number' was 97 (eeeek!), but just over 2 months in is now 53 .... and expected to fall further by applying the above principles - I am not (and nor do I want!) any medication. You are starting from a better place so sure you can achieve success quickly.
I give you a word of caution without wanting to steer you in a particular direction as others will! ....... You will be given often contradictory and conflicting information and advice as to what to do, what to eat.... and vice versa by HCPs and well meaning others - who likely as not have completely opposing views. The only advice I would give is take the information and decide what is best for YOU at this time, you don't need to decide everything yesterday, today or tomorrow - this is a long process.
Also, give the NHS a chance. In my experience they have come through for me, and my practice have been incredibly supportive at a time I genuinely needed it. They have surprised me, and I have amazed them with what I have done in responding to my new 'label'.
The very best of Luck

I am in this exact position; I do not know what to do.

I've been given 2000mg Metformin and just left to it. No advice. I have to wait 6/7 months for the course.

What do you eat in a week? What does your week with Diabetes look like? I have no idea what to do for the best.

Thank you.
 
@melliemars
My 'diabetes week' looks exactly as it did before I was 'labelled' ..... the only difference are, I now spend a lot more time being active, cycling, walking in the Gym etc ... and in the main enjoying being fitter (and significantly slimmer). My diet consists of 'sensible' stuff, salads, vegetables, lean white meats. I am conscious of 'the dreaded carbs' but do still have a sandwich occasionally, or a slice of toast, as I do rice .... but all in moderation. It is easy spending time in here to become frightened of carbs - not sure if this is right! The restriction of the diet is the bit I find most difficult, particularly when I'm in the company of others behaving and eating 'normally' ..... but it was a **** diet and lifestyle that put me here in the first place!

You sound as though you have been sold short by your practice - I would be tempted to go and bang the table and demand to
Spend time with the Dr and PN, and tell them how avandoned you feel. There are many in here who have little time for the NHS or its advice - I have a lot of time for both - currently!
Hope that helps.
 
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