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type 2 and low carb

claudetteholmes

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north somerset
Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Hello everyone, I am new to forum. I have read some of the forum and find it truly inspiring. I hope I can get some advice. I was diagnosed in 2008 and was diet controlled the normal nhs guidelines my daughter 2 then was diagnosed with a rare cancer and all went on hold on diabetes front. By 2009 I was started on Metformin levels came down but was not a happy story. By 2011 I was on statins and was very ill and finally after many fights with diabetic doctor in surgery went to another doctor and was placed on sitagliptin and gliclazide and 6.5 was hbc1 and cholesterol was 5.5 till early last year. I was on the low gi diet as per guidelines my weight came down from 115 to 108 but no future success. I tried starving on 5.2 diet with no results. I started experiencing pre -menopoulsal symptoms but after loads of test nothing in blood work. My Hbc1 went up to 8.5 and cholesterol to 6.9. Was placed on Forxiga and Glicglazide after 5 days had such bad kidney ache aside from drinking 4l of water. I am now back on old medicine and went cold turkey no/low carbs diet. I feel great have loads of energy weight is coming of now on 105kg after a week. My fasting and sugar levels are still high will they come down? I upped my exercise and do brisk walks every day. Any advice? I am struggling to get any support from my surgery and tired of being handed the heart foundation guide to healthy eating
 
Hello claudetteholmes,welcome to the forum,best thing i ever did was find this forum and follow the advice given by people who have walked the walk and know what works,for me lchf regime works perfectly,since starting in sept 14 i have lost 3 1/2 stones and my blood sugars from 28.6 to todays 5.0 , i would reccomend jenny rhuhls diet 101 which explains the lchf regime and what to watch out for etc, all the best on your journey and happy your here, keep posting and @ daisy1 will be along to give you the info for new posters :)
 
Hi. Bearing in mind your daughter is only 2, I suspect you are young and it seems quite likely you are a Late onset T1 and not T2? What is your weight like? Your high sugar levels despite the Gliclazide and Sitagliptin indicate that possibility. I've been down the same route and insulin solved it all. Do ask the GP for the two tests i.e. GAD an c-peptide which can help indicate the presence of anti-bodies but LADA can be due to other things besides GAD antibodies. If your HBa1C is above around 7% then I would discuss going onto insulin with the GP. It was a relief for me going onto insulin having starved myself and on the same three tablets which no longer worked.
 

@claudetteholmes

Here is the information for new members which I hope you will find helpful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will help, as you have already seen.



BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
 
many thanks -I am reading like a demon and learning very fast
 
 
Hi I am 45 and my fasting levels are between 7.5 and highest is 11 more in upper 8.5 range but talked with a gp that is a friend and she believe that i should try and persevere on my current path and doing all the rights things but as she pointed out its only 5 days. Maybe I am naive but hoped for better blood sugar results. I was on the new Forxiga for 5 days and she think between drinking litres of water and weeing all the time( its wat the medication do you wee out the sugar with the lovely side effect of thrush and bladder infections) - I stopped medication after my kidneys ached so badly that I could hardly walk she think it will come in time. My energy levels are the highest ever my suspected ibs / and diarrhoea is gone so is all my menopausal symptoms. I used to crave sweet things all the time its like a magic wand on lchf i have not craved no hunger. I was diagnosed as type 2 very overweight. As to discussing finer details with doctors here its a challenge my doctors goal is to get me out of the office in 7min. My own gp has advised me to seek an endochronologist privately as he is not allowed to refer me on nhs with 2 diabetic doctors in practice I should oint out that I don't eat a lot. When my sugars went up last year I stopped snacking and weight came down. Just 3 meals a day. Must confess I battle is breakfast cant face food early but i try. As for metformin got very poorly over a long time but will give it a go again.I was on insulin when i was pregnant with my second child in Wales had amazing support was on insulin and i lost almost 10kgs
I was told going on to insulin will cause lots of problems I wont be able to drive (dvla) and wont get insurance???? My husband goes offshore for work so I need to drive as we live in country side.
 
Thank you will have a look I am a bit obsessive at the moment testing with new diet
only test if you are going to do something with the result...dont do what I did and went through about 100 in my first week out of curiosity
I cut down to under 50g a day and it took about a month to get my bloods into normal range. I could have adjusted my carb intake later if I wanted to
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/firstweek.htm
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarbliving/a/Food-Cravings.htm

how much carb
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/carblevel.htm

 
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Hi. Thanks for the info. Being overweight would imply T2 so I guessed wrong. Do persevere with the low-carb diet as it's a vital part of control for all of us. Insulin isn't a big problem. Yes, you have to tell the DVLA and test before and during driving and but insurance isn't a problem. If you do go back onto Metformin do ask for Slow Release (SR) version
 
Thank you so much for the above, found out where the shakes and symptoms of hypo I experienced this week came from - good news hit my first 5.8 after lunch today in months
They talk about cravings I had none after all the calorie counting and starving on 600 calories I feel great and never hungry and the weight is coming off. Yipppeee!
 
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