Type 2 and monitoring, I have one Dr on side!

Rachox

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I have just got home from an appt with an orthopaedic consultant for an impending foot operation. My diabetes diagnosis fell between the referral and today. I have so far only seen my GP at diagnosis, so this was the first medic I've seen since buying my meter. I told him of my diagnosis and sheepishly told him I had bought a meter. His response "well done you!" He then asked me what my readings were and what they are now. So all proved very useful. :)
(Just have to tell my GP next month!)
 

leslie10152

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I have just got home from an appt with an orthopaedic consultant for an impending foot operation. My diabetes diagnosis fell between the referral and today. I have so far only seen my GP at diagnosis, so this was the first medic I've seen since buying my meter. I told him of my diagnosis and sheepishly told him I had bought a meter. His response "well done you!" He then asked me what my readings were and what they are now. So all proved very useful. :)
(Just have to tell my GP next month!)
Don't worry about the gp. You are now in control so be glad.
 

Rachox

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Don't worry about the gp. You are now in control so be glad.
I'm very glad to be able to monitor my progress. I'm hoping my first follow up HbA1c will show a significant improvement. I should be able to view it on line before my next GP appt. If the GP is pleasantly surprised I'll reveal my hand, monitoring and low carbs! He then won't have any grounds to poo poo our methods!
 
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leslie10152

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I'm very glad to be able to monitor my progress. I'm hoping my first follow up HbA1c will show a significant improvement. I should be able to view it on line before my next GP appt. If the GP is pleasantly surprised I'll reveal my hand, monitoring and low carbs! He then won't have any grounds to poo poo our methods!
That's the spirit. This is your life, your diabetes....no one can control it better than you!
 
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I'm very glad to be able to monitor my progress. I'm hoping my first follow up HbA1c will show a significant improvement. I should be able to view it on line before my next GP appt. If the GP is pleasantly surprised I'll reveal my hand, monitoring and low carbs! He then won't have any grounds to poo poo our methods!
I like to keep them guessing. Sit there with a smile on my face and a lowered Hba1c. After all, they won't give me test strips and give me dietary advice which includes eating bread etc.
 

Rachox

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I like to keep them guessing. Sit there with a smile on my face and a lowered Hba1c. After all, they won't give me test strips and give me dietary advice which includes eating bread etc.
Ah but you see, if I keep my diabetes well controlled, I'll save the NHS in the long run. Maybe they'd like to give me some test strips in return! :) I can but dream!;)
 
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Ah but you see, if I keep my diabetes well controlled, I'll save the NHS in the long run. Maybe they'd like to give me some test strips in return! :) I can but dream!;)
No they won't but as a bloke they offered me Viagra. They obviously have their priorities round their neck.

It was pointed out by a friend that I should have accepted, sold them down the pub and bought test strips with the proceeds. Makes sense to me.
 

ringi

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I like to keep them guessing. Sit there with a smile on my face and a lowered Hba1c. After all, they won't give me test strips and give me dietary advice which includes eating bread etc.

By doing that you actions could result in someone’s death as you are stopping your GP learning and therefore giving better care to other people……
 

bulkbiker

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By doing that you actions could result in someone’s death as you are stopping your GP learning and therefore giving better care to other people……

Seriously?
It's up to the GP to keep up with new science surely.. I thought it was called "Continuous Professional Development" or it was when I was working..
 

douglas99

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I'm very glad to be able to monitor my progress. I'm hoping my first follow up HbA1c will show a significant improvement. I should be able to view it on line before my next GP appt. If the GP is pleasantly surprised I'll reveal my hand, monitoring and low carbs! He then won't have any grounds to poo poo our methods!

I find it usually seems to depend very much on the patients attitude, as well as the GP.
I had meter and strips on prescription, with no problem, but I did work closely with my GP, and other HCP's to reverse my type 2, and we both listened to the other throughout the process.
 
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ringi

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The solid science is very limited, as when you try to put people into different groups with different long term life styles, they don't do what you ask them to...... And if someone is eating a lot of simple carbs, then cutting fat will improve their health a lot, but cutting out all the simple curbs would be even better. (So if the message is "fats are OK", then it will result in harm and most people only remember one thing the GP tells them.)

I am also starting to think,that someone deciding to pay for their own test scripts and therefore being engaged with the numbers may be a big predictor of outcomes...... (If so valid large scale trails will be very hard to setup to investigate the benefit of self monitoring.)
 

DCUKMod

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The solid science is very limited, as when you try to put people into different groups with different long term life styles, they don't do what you ask them to...... And if someone is eating a lot of simple carbs, then cutting fat will improve their health a lot, but cutting out all the simple curbs would be even better. (So if the message is "fats are OK", then it will result in harm and most people only remember one thing the GP tells them.)

I am also starting to think,that someone deciding to pay for their own test scripts and therefore being engaged with the numbers may be a big predictor of outcomes...... (If so valid large scale trails will be very hard to setup to investigate the benefit of self monitoring.)

Ringi - Have you seen any of the presentations on this site's Low Carb Programme, on YouTube and the like? Participants of the LC Prog regularly provide feedback on a range of topics and markers, from their well-being, weight-loss, blood scores and so on.

As I understand it, there are something like 185,000 anecdotes so far, although that may now be out-dated.

Would that sort of thing suit your purposes?
 

ringi

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I have greatly reduce my carbs because it clearly works for lots of people.

But doctors (and NICE) expect to see randomised (ideally double blind) clinical trials before they believe anything. Hence they tend to only believe in drugs.