Type 2 and skinny

Qatar2017

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Hi all. I have recently received the gift of type 2. I am a fussy eater and am able to eat whatever without gaining weight. I have dropped 20kg. I am now about 51kg.

My main question is about diet. Do I need low carb? I want to gain weight safely but be able to enjoy food. I am new to this whole situation and it really is going to be a struggle to find food to eat.

Any advice at all is appreciated.

Thanks.
 

Chook

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Hello and welcome to the forum :)

Have you had tests to confirm that you aren't Type 1?

Eating a low carb diet reduces the amount of glucose in your blood - you can eat low carb / high fat, topping up your food to a higher calorific intake by eating more fats - either by way of butter, fat on meat, olive oil or avocados.

I'll tag @daisy1 who has got a great welcome pack post for new members. :)
 

daisy1

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@Qatar2017

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
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azure

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@Qatar2017 If you lost that weight quickly and unexpectedly, then it's possible you're actually Type 1. That's why I ask.

Type 1 can come on at any age and whn it develops during adulthood it's sometimes wrongly assumed to be Type 2.

If there's any doubt, insist on more tests.
 

Qatar2017

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So many replies so quickly!

The weight has dropped off slowly but it seemed to speed up recently. I would say between 2012 and now really I have lost that much. As I see myself everyday, I didn't notice too much. It was when I saw people after my summer holidays, they were saying I had lost weight so I headed to the doctors for tests etc.

I am very early days and have been given some medicine to take and will be monitored.

I thank you all for the info and will read through it and educate myself quickly.

Hopefully after seeing my doctor next, I will get more answers and a better understanding of blood levels etc.
 

azure

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Do ask about the possibility of slow-onset Type 1 @Qatar2017 It's worth ruling out.

Type 1 is associated with unexpected weight loss, and what you've described doesn't eliminate the chance you might be Type 1.
 

DCUKMod

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Hi all. I have recently received the gift of type 2. I am a fussy eater and am able to eat whatever without gaining weight. I have dropped 20kg. I am now about 51kg.

My main question is about diet. Do I need low carb? I want to gain weight safely but be able to enjoy food. I am new to this whole situation and it really is going to be a struggle to find food to eat.

Any advice at all is appreciated.

Thanks.

Hi Qatar, I'm afraid I'm going to as ks a few questions of you, if you don't mind.

Does your 51kg leave you skinny, but in a healthy weight for your height or are you "officially" underweight?

Secondly, most T2s find lowering their carb consumption to be useful to reducing their blood sugars, but each individual is different, bearing in mind some need to lower their blood scores more than others.

I appreciate that's not the most helpful post in the world, but if you're happy to share with us what medication your doctor has prescribed for you and what sort of things you like to eat, It would also be healpful to understand what your diagnostic blood sugars were.

With that sort of information folks can probably make some more helpful suggestions.

I do agree with the others that it could likely be worthwhile discuss the T1 versus T2 diagnosis.