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Type 2 : Born too soon -medical advances!

AndBreathe said:
The only thing I would add to your post Tim would be at the end that not all diabetics who are unfortunate enough to experience Bell's Policy will have it due to poor control of their diabetes. Their control could be excellent, but have suffered another trauma etc.
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I can give you proof of that. I'm having good control but still ended up in the cardiac unit yesterday. More inflammation or an immune attack, we're unsure as yet. More investigation is going to be done.
 
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Kittylitter said:
I was wondering if there was a connection to diabetes and underweight babies, I was one too at 3lb, 4oz.
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I was premature too. My mum and dad were heavy smokers. I was early and had no facial hair. As a 3mth old baby I had pneumonia too, then thrush complaints at 6yr old. Constant coughs and chest infections inbetween. Always had a sore throat, I remember. Stained teeth from too many antibiotics as a child.
If my kids had that bad environment they would be ill a lot too. Son got discharged from out-patients as only mild vit d deficiency. Everything else came back excellent, very pleased with his health considering all my health problems.
 
ickihun said:
I was premature too. My mum and dad were heavy smokers. I was early and had no facial hair. As a 3mth old baby I had pneumonia too, then thrush complaints at 6yr old. Constant coughs and chest infections inbetween. Always had a sore throat, I remember. Stained teeth from too many antibiotics as a child.
If my kids had that bad environment they would be ill a lot too. Son got discharged from out-patients as only mild vit d deficiency. Everything else came back excellent, very pleased with his health considering all my health problems.
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I am glad your son's health is good, one weight off your mind.
 
I wasnt premature or underweight at birth. But my mother took thalidomide in her first 4 months of carrying me. I had many illnesses, including pneumonia, glandular fever and burst appendix with peritonitis - all before I was 20 years old.

I sometimes wonder if there is an immune disease trigger for some conditions like diabetes.

However, I was slender until I was 35 and went on Paroxetene for 7 years and gained a lot of weight, even though I wasnt overeating or under-exercising. Since coming off it I havent gained any more weight, but havent lost more than 16lbs either.
 
I was large at birth at 9lb and 12 oz, and a little overterm. I also had high blood sugar at birth and breathing difficulties. I was a "blue baby" which is supposed to indicate possible diabetes at birth.

I just ran across this article in Diabetes Journal, a publication of the American Diabetic Association finding an increase in later cases of Type 2 Diabetes in both low and high weight births, with the highest risk being in the lower than average birth weight category. http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/27/10/2512 They excluded preterm births and focused just on birth weight differences. They also excluded babies born to mothers with Type 1.
 
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They're just starting to report long term effects of being born via IVF as well. At the risk of sounding all hippy-dippy, we interfere too much with nature at our peril. Human history is littered with such lack of forethought (the British settlers who thought it was a good idea to introduce rabbits and foxes to Australia so they'd feel more at home ... I'm looking at you!)

The problem with many of our modern ills is basic human arrogance - we think we know everything, can do what we want - oh, but wait ... we didn't see that coming :rolleyes:
 
serenity648 said:
I wasnt premature or underweight at birth. But my mother took thalidomide in her first 4 months of carrying me. I had many illnesses, including pneumonia, glandular fever and burst appendix with peritonitis - all before I was 20 years old.

I sometimes wonder if there is an immune disease trigger for some conditions like diabetes.

However, I was slender until I was 35 and went on Paroxetene for 7 years and gained a lot of weight, even though I wasnt overeating or under-exercising. Since coming off it I havent gained any more weight, but havent lost more than 16lbs either.
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Yes I see a lot of us have had appendicitis and anti-depressants, and infections as children
 
serenity648 said:
have they? I thought I was the only one!!!
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Another lady had written she was a sickly child and had appendicitis too, and I am the same, and yrs of antidepressants, so I assume there are other people too.
 
serenity648 said:
I wasnt premature or underweight at birth. But my mother took thalidomide in her first 4 months of carrying me. I had many illnesses, including pneumonia, glandular fever and burst appendix with peritonitis - all before I was 20 years old.

I sometimes wonder if there is an immune disease trigger for some conditions like diabetes.

However, I was slender until I was 35 and went on Paroxetene for 7 years and gained a lot of weight, even though I wasnt overeating or under-exercising. Since coming off it I havent gained any more weight, but havent lost more than 16lbs either.
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I had burst appendix too. Something in it all. Have you had bell's palsy?
 
Kittylitter said:
Another lady had written she was a sickly child and had appendicitis too, and I am the same, and yrs of antidepressants, so I assume there are other people too.
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My mum took anti-deoressants whilst she was pregnant with me. I've never taken them but I've been referred for a bit support so I'm not sure what will be suggested.
 
Kittylitter said:
I was wondering if there was a connection to diabetes and underweight babies, I was one too at 3lb, 4oz.
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I am type 1 and my daughter had to be delivered at 33 weeks, for my child, diabetes is often at the back of my mind.
 
ickihun said:
I had burst appendix too. Something in it all. Have you had bell's palsy?
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No I havent. However, I realised this morning that I has raised sugar levels in my urine towards the end of my last pregnancy, when I was 34, but although the midwife mentioned it several times, nothing was suggested to be done about it, and I was told i would be fine once my baby was born. She used a dipstick in my urine to test.

I had 8 miscarriages (including a still birth) during my time trying for a family. All unexplained. My son was healthy and is a strapping 6' man now.

edited to add; I also have a healthy daughter, who was my second pregnancy. However, I miscarried her twin.
 
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serenity648 said:
No I havent. However, I realised this morning that I has raised sugar levels in my urine towards the end of my last pregnancy, when I was 34, but although the midwife mentioned it several times, nothing was suggested to be done about it, and I was told i would be fine once my baby was born. She used a dipstick in my urine to test.

I had 8 miscarriages (including a still birth) during my time trying for a family. All unexplained. My son was healthy and is a strapping 6' man now.
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So you discovered you suffered with gestational diabetes first then type 2?
I think they are telling gestational diabetes sufferers now that they are at risk of type 2.
I know insulin resistance is a chicken and the egg conundrum. Maybe insulin resistance CAN start in the womb? Then for us we've had a stress on the immune system with illness which has escalated to type 2? Not sure we'll ever really know.
I work on today's status but on occasion look back for inspiration!
 
Maybe an insulin resistance meter would be hugely valuable in today's day and age of type 2 diabetes. Out of my 2 siblings and myself I've more of an active, adventurous mind. Maybe sugar highs have caused my excitability over the years. I'm such a chatterbox unless very very ill.
I'm positive about the advances on finding a 'cure' for future generations. Protecting the immune system seems to definitely be the way forward.
 
ickihun said:
So you discovered you suffered with gestational diabetes first then type 2?
I think they are telling gestational diabetes sufferers now that they are at risk of type 2.
I know insulin resistance is a chicken and the egg conundrum. Maybe insulin resistance CAN start in the womb? Then for us we've had a stress on the immune system with illness which has escalated to type 2? Not sure we'll ever really know.
I work on today's status but on occasion look back for inspiration!
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would the sugar in my urine indicate gestational diabetes? I am new to all this.

My daughter, who is 35 and slim and runs marathons, has just been diagnosed as pre-diabetic : ((((((

so its going down another generation. Thank goodness I have been able to point her to this site straight away. My brothers and father still trust the doctors advice, despite my results : ((((
 
serenity648 said:
would the sugar in my urine indicate gestational diabetes? I am new to all this.

My daughter, who is 35 and slim and runs marathons, has just been diagnosed as pre-diabetic : ((((((

so its going down another generation. Thank goodness I have been able to point her to this site straight away. My brothers and father still trust the doctors advice, despite my results : ((((
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We'll never know now but I'd probably conclude it could have been too high. Did they not do a sugar tolerance test, in pregnancy? I know standard testing now.
I had re-occuring protein which I think use to be the old mind set for sugar. I was on heavy insulin doses in pregnancy. But I was type 2 before pregnancies. I didn't fall pregnant,, even with ivf help til I took metformin for a steady uninterupted time. For both pregnancies to happen
 
ickihun said:
We'll never know now but I'd probably conclude it could have been too high. Did they not do a sugar tolerance test, in pregnancy? I know standard testing now.
I had re-occuring protein which I think use to be the old mind set for sugar. I was on heavy insulin doses in pregnancy. But I was type 2 before pregnancies. I didn't fall pregnant,, even with ivf help til I took metformin for a steady uninterupted time. For both pregnancies to happen
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no sugar tolerance test. Off the google it, I have never heard of this one.
 
well I was only too small when born , not ill at all most of my childhood .

But when pregnant with my daughter I lived from pure glucose and saltwater for allmost 7 month, because my condition was such that i couldn´t keep ANY food in me I did try to eat....

It was a horrible pregnancy, but my daugther came out normal, normal birthweight and luckily not having diabetes.. she still is fine, I hope and pray she does not get diabetes later on...
luckily I did eat a lot of the right vitamins right before I got pregnant... because only after 5 month of womitting hell I got a vitamin B injection, I begged for it, and sayd to them that I didn´t understand why heavy alchoholics could get it but not I who wast able to keep any food in me...

I have in that way been poisoned/poluted by ftalates, as the tube that lead the glucose and saltwater into ones veins are made from thalates because they are the only material that does not collaps...
Ftalates are hormon disturbing and I wouldn´t be surprised if that too up ones risk of getting diabetes.. but I have been on antidepresants and finally on antipshycotics as the antideressant didt seem to Work at all anymore... and both those medications are known now to raise the risk of getting diabetes..
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/DietMakeupCalc.php
 
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