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<blockquote data-quote="AllieRainbow" data-source="post: 1816229" data-attributes="member: 473025"><p>My fasting blood glucose was 5.8 this morning, one tenth of a point up on yesterday. I am pleased with that as late last night I decided to do a test to see how my body handled carbs from fruit. I may have been influenced by a very large box of strawberries from Marks and Spencers sitting in the fridge, and the discovery of a much lower carb double cream from lovely Jersey cows in Cornwall. Another influence was reading a post yesterday where the poster ([USER=96315]@andcol[/USER]) had added carbs and used exercise to bring his blood sugar down, and was able to eventually eat relatively normally: <a href="https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/got-my-first-3-month-hba1c-results-this-morning.55719/" target="_blank">https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/got-my-first-3-month-hba1c-results-this-morning.55719/</a></p><p></p><p>I have found a relatively similar strawberry incident on the 11th May:</p><p></p><p><strong>160g</strong> of strawberries</p><p><strong>100g</strong> Olympus greek yoghurt</p><p>Carbs: <strong>13.6g</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>FBG 11/05/18: <strong>7.4</strong></p><p>Est HbA1c (my spreadsheet) from day's BG readings: <strong>40 </strong></p><p>Average BG for the day:<strong> 6.6</strong></p><p>6.51pm - Pre-meal: <strong>5.8</strong></p><p>9.02pm - Post-meal (2 hr): <strong>7.2</strong></p><p>Rise at 2 hours post-meal of <strong>+1.4 mmol/L</strong></p><p>FBG 12/05/18:<strong> 7.3</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>Here are the figures for the baseline experiment yesterday:</p><p></p><p><strong>200g</strong> of strawberries - first fruit since 3rd June</p><p><strong>110g</strong> of Olympus greek yoghurt</p><p><strong>30ml</strong> of M & S Cornish Gold double cream (1.6 carbs/100ml) - my new go to double cream</p><p>Carbs: <strong>14.9g</strong></p><p></p><p>FBG 19/06/18: <strong>5.7</strong></p><p>Est HbA1c (my spreadsheet) from day's BG readings: <strong>35 </strong></p><p>Average BG for the day:<strong> 5.9</strong></p><p>9.17pm - Pre-meal: <strong>5.3</strong></p><p>9.51pm - Post-meal: (0.5hr): <strong>5.5</strong></p><p>10.25pm - Post-meal (1 hr): <strong>6.8</strong></p><p>10.48pm - Post-meal (1.5 hr): <strong>7.5</strong></p><p>11.14pm - Post-meal (2 hr): <strong>6.1</strong></p><p>Rise at 2 hours post-meal of <strong>+0.8 mmol/L</strong></p><p>FBG 20/06/18:<strong> 5.8</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>My first findings are that they were delicious, and the greek yoghurt mixed with the double cream was amazing.</p><p></p><p>I was very happy with the BG readings as I had expected a much bigger spike and I was surprised to see the BG so low so late as eating anything after around 1.30pm seems to result in a 2 hour reading of around 1.2-1.9 mmol/L up on the pre-meal reading.</p><p></p><p>This is going to be my baseline and I will repeat the "Strawberry Protocol" in a month or so to see whether there as any difference in the way I deal with the carbs. It is a rather crude experiment, but a delicious one.</p><p></p><p>My weight is still fairly stable and I have noticed that I am eating a little more. I am going to a barbecue with relatives on Thursday so given the rather larger intake of food yesterday, I am taking today as a fast day, and breaking my fast with the barbecue on Thursday afternoon. I am still having some issues with portion size, so I am stepping back on the food for a day to see if that helps with control of both BG and with eating an appropriate portion size.</p><p></p><p>The fast day did not work - I forgot just how stressful Wednesdays can be, and ate in the late afternoon, but only a fairly light meal. When I got home I was still very stressed, and ended up emotionally eating. The good news was that it was low carb and not too many calories, so I cut down the portion sizes today successfully, and did not overeat, in spite of the emotional stressors.</p><p></p><p>A new start tomorrow. The BG readings today were a little higher than usual, mainly die to a very stressful day, but I am sure they will keep on their downward trajectory anyway.</p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Day 17</strong> - Weight: <strong>113.0 kilos</strong> / BMI <strong>36.8</strong> / Waist to Height Ratio: <strong>66%</strong></p><p></p><p>6.30am - FBG: <strong>5.8</strong></p><p>7.30am - DP:<strong> 5.6</strong></p><p>? - Under 5.2: <strong>This didn't happen - I realise I have huge stress on Wednesdays, and broke the fast</strong></p><p>3.51pm - Pre-meal: <strong>5.2</strong></p><p>? - Post-meal (2hrs): <strong>?</strong></p><p>6.23pm - Post-meal (3 hrs): <strong>6.3</strong></p><p>12.15am - Bedtime:<strong> 6.6</strong></p><p></p><p>Meal: Romaine lettuce "sandwiches" with Philadelphia, tomato, smoked mackerel and coriander. Bacon, sausage and egg later on. Coffee with double cream, all other fluids water.</p><p></p><p>I am adding a couple of twists of himalayan pink salt to meals to increase my salt intake.</p><p></p><p>Carbs: <strong>12.5g</strong></p><p>Protein: <strong>94.3g</strong></p><p>Fat: <strong>143.7g</strong></p><p>Cals: <strong>1721</strong></p><p></p><p>Length of Fast: <strong>18hrs 34mins</strong></p><p>Average BG Before Fasting Experiment: <strong>7.0</strong></p><p>Today's Average BG Reading: <strong>6.1</strong></p><p>Breathalyser reading: <strong>0.0% BAC</strong></p><p></p><p>Interestingly the estimated HbA1c on the mySugr app has come down by around 0.2 - 0.4 points every day so far:</p><p></p><p><strong>41.9</strong> - Day 1 (baseline)</p><p><strong>39.9</strong> - Day 8</p><p><strong>38.8 </strong>- Day 15</p><p><strong>38.6</strong> - Day 16</p><p><strong>38.5</strong> - Day 17</p><p></p><p>I suspect that doing more readings whilst intermittently fasting has probably skewed this a little downwards.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AllieRainbow, post: 1816229, member: 473025"] My fasting blood glucose was 5.8 this morning, one tenth of a point up on yesterday. I am pleased with that as late last night I decided to do a test to see how my body handled carbs from fruit. I may have been influenced by a very large box of strawberries from Marks and Spencers sitting in the fridge, and the discovery of a much lower carb double cream from lovely Jersey cows in Cornwall. Another influence was reading a post yesterday where the poster ([USER=96315]@andcol[/USER]) had added carbs and used exercise to bring his blood sugar down, and was able to eventually eat relatively normally: [URL]https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/got-my-first-3-month-hba1c-results-this-morning.55719/[/URL] I have found a relatively similar strawberry incident on the 11th May: [B]160g[/B] of strawberries [B]100g[/B] Olympus greek yoghurt Carbs: [B]13.6g [/B] FBG 11/05/18: [B]7.4[/B] Est HbA1c (my spreadsheet) from day's BG readings: [B]40 [/B] Average BG for the day:[B] 6.6[/B] 6.51pm - Pre-meal: [B]5.8[/B] 9.02pm - Post-meal (2 hr): [B]7.2[/B] Rise at 2 hours post-meal of [B]+1.4 mmol/L[/B] FBG 12/05/18:[B] 7.3 [/B] Here are the figures for the baseline experiment yesterday: [B]200g[/B] of strawberries - first fruit since 3rd June [B]110g[/B] of Olympus greek yoghurt [B]30ml[/B] of M & S Cornish Gold double cream (1.6 carbs/100ml) - my new go to double cream Carbs: [B]14.9g[/B] FBG 19/06/18: [B]5.7[/B] Est HbA1c (my spreadsheet) from day's BG readings: [B]35 [/B] Average BG for the day:[B] 5.9[/B] 9.17pm - Pre-meal: [B]5.3[/B] 9.51pm - Post-meal: (0.5hr): [B]5.5[/B] 10.25pm - Post-meal (1 hr): [B]6.8[/B] 10.48pm - Post-meal (1.5 hr): [B]7.5[/B] 11.14pm - Post-meal (2 hr): [B]6.1[/B] Rise at 2 hours post-meal of [B]+0.8 mmol/L[/B] FBG 20/06/18:[B] 5.8 [/B] My first findings are that they were delicious, and the greek yoghurt mixed with the double cream was amazing. I was very happy with the BG readings as I had expected a much bigger spike and I was surprised to see the BG so low so late as eating anything after around 1.30pm seems to result in a 2 hour reading of around 1.2-1.9 mmol/L up on the pre-meal reading. This is going to be my baseline and I will repeat the "Strawberry Protocol" in a month or so to see whether there as any difference in the way I deal with the carbs. It is a rather crude experiment, but a delicious one. My weight is still fairly stable and I have noticed that I am eating a little more. I am going to a barbecue with relatives on Thursday so given the rather larger intake of food yesterday, I am taking today as a fast day, and breaking my fast with the barbecue on Thursday afternoon. I am still having some issues with portion size, so I am stepping back on the food for a day to see if that helps with control of both BG and with eating an appropriate portion size. The fast day did not work - I forgot just how stressful Wednesdays can be, and ate in the late afternoon, but only a fairly light meal. When I got home I was still very stressed, and ended up emotionally eating. The good news was that it was low carb and not too many calories, so I cut down the portion sizes today successfully, and did not overeat, in spite of the emotional stressors. A new start tomorrow. The BG readings today were a little higher than usual, mainly die to a very stressful day, but I am sure they will keep on their downward trajectory anyway. [B] Day 17[/B] - Weight: [B]113.0 kilos[/B] / BMI [B]36.8[/B] / Waist to Height Ratio: [B]66%[/B] 6.30am - FBG: [B]5.8[/B] 7.30am - DP:[B] 5.6[/B] ? - Under 5.2: [B]This didn't happen - I realise I have huge stress on Wednesdays, and broke the fast[/B] 3.51pm - Pre-meal: [B]5.2[/B] ? - Post-meal (2hrs): [B]?[/B] 6.23pm - Post-meal (3 hrs): [B]6.3[/B] 12.15am - Bedtime:[B] 6.6[/B] Meal: Romaine lettuce "sandwiches" with Philadelphia, tomato, smoked mackerel and coriander. Bacon, sausage and egg later on. Coffee with double cream, all other fluids water. I am adding a couple of twists of himalayan pink salt to meals to increase my salt intake. Carbs: [B]12.5g[/B] Protein: [B]94.3g[/B] Fat: [B]143.7g[/B] Cals: [B]1721[/B] Length of Fast: [B]18hrs 34mins[/B] Average BG Before Fasting Experiment: [B]7.0[/B] Today's Average BG Reading: [B]6.1[/B] Breathalyser reading: [B]0.0% BAC[/B] Interestingly the estimated HbA1c on the mySugr app has come down by around 0.2 - 0.4 points every day so far: [B]41.9[/B] - Day 1 (baseline) [B]39.9[/B] - Day 8 [B]38.8 [/B]- Day 15 [B]38.6[/B] - Day 16 [B]38.5[/B] - Day 17 I suspect that doing more readings whilst intermittently fasting has probably skewed this a little downwards. [/QUOTE]
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