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Type 2 newb

Jockeywheel

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Type of diabetes
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Tablets (oral)
Hello there, my name is Chris I have just been diagnosed with type 2 and started on Metformin.


I have in the past done Atkins diet and lost a lot of weight, although I'm not massive overweight this is what a lot of people recommend , I see my dietitian on the 2nd of June so I will see what she says before I mention low carb diets.


I would like to ask what as a starter would be my best approach to starting a diet?
 
My simple advice would be to remove the big bad ugly carbs from your diet. No white bread, no white rice, no potatoes. Increase green veg, especially spinach and other good leaf veg, eat as much salad as you like and relax. Try rye breads, the german style ones are great tasting and digest very slowly for a good carb profile. With these simple tips I have brought my HbA1c doen to 5.8 from 13.7 pretty much from one week of starting. Along with Huminsulin and Volibo (alpha glucosidase inhibitor). I am sure there are many other pieces of advice that others will give you many of which may suit you better, just my experience after 17 years of badly controlled levels this has worked for me.
 
Hi Chris and welcome to the forum :)

The best way to start is to reduce the carbs in your diet. Here is the information we give to new members which includes much information about carbs. Ask questions if you need to and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Wow thank you very much for both your replies, do as a start basically do a low carb diet.

When I did Atkins the phases had different veg allowances, how does this go with diabetics ?


Oh yea, how likely is the advice that I will receive from my GP Monday be out of date?



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hi, welcome

the advice will be ****! (unless your very lucky)

basically atkins but eat as much above ground veg as you like, the more the better

i reckon you've got a head start being an atkins veteran :)
 
i love low carb dieting but no one will ever convince me eating above ground green leafy veg is bad in any quantity, but as you will surely soon learn i am as thick as a plank


edit: all be it a low carb plank
 
Hi and welcome. Basically think the right food mix rather than diet as it needs to be a change in lifestyle that can last. Yes, as the others have said reduce the carbs and keep them low-GI. You can have protein and some fat (fat doesn't make you fat it's the carbs that are the villain). Yes, the diet advice you get from the GP/nurse may be very dated. Ignore any advice to have carbs with every meal or to reduce fat in favour of carbs. If you can get the carbs down low enough you will lose weight and help with your blood sugar
 
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