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jacko3469

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Hi I'm type 2 currently on linagliptin one a day and 4 metformin, I have just come back from my check up with my nurse and have been told that hba1c level has gone from 51 to 68 in 3 months, my nurse knows that I eat properly and look after myself due to myself travelling the country playing sport and training hard. She explained that I need to speak to my doctor on my appointment that I have to go on more tablets so that it does not affect my body, so that I can still play my sport. She gave me a couple of leaflets about these tablets and I will be going on one of them.
They are either dapagliflozin or gilclazide I have been told about the side effects and that she told me which is best so that it does not affect my sports career. I am very upset as no matter what I do it just gets worse I train at least 3 times a week for my sport, I am about fed up. My nurse wants to get me sorted so that it does not affect my feet, which is obviously important for sport
 

Liam1955

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Hello @jacko3469 and Welcome to the Forum :).
I take the Dapagliflozin daily, this is my second time on this drug after having a 10 month break. It helps to lower your blood sugars and HBA1C by the Kidneys extracting more glucose from the Blood and excreting it in your Urine.
I am tagging @daisy1 who will provide you with some basic information that all new members receive. Just have a read and ask questions. We are all helpful and supportive to each other.
 

daisyduck

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Hi @jacko3469 Can you give us an idea of what you normally eat ?
Lots of us have found that the NHS recommended Eatwell plate has too many carbs for most diabetics. It may be fine for non diabetic people but it doesn't work for us. So maybe what you think is eating properly isn't working for you ?
Have a good read of the post from daisy1 when it appears. Just a change in your diet might be all you need.
 

daisy1

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@jacko3469

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will come along and help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why :)
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

jacko3469

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hello @jacko3469 and Welcome to the Forum :).
I take the Dapagliflozin daily, this is my second time on this drug after having a 10 month break. It helps to lower your blood sugars and HBA1C by the Kidneys extracting more glucose from the Blood and excreting it in your Urine.
I am tagging @daisy1 who will provide you with some basic information that all new members receive. Just have a read and ask questions. We are all helpful and supportive to each other.
How do you find it
 
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jacko3469

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Type of diabetes
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Hi @jacko3469 Can you give us an idea of what you normally eat ?
Lots of us have found that the NHS recommended Eatwell plate has too many carbs for most diabetics. It may be fine for non diabetic people but it doesn't work for us. So maybe what you think is eating properly isn't working for you ?
Have a good read of the post from daisy1 when it appears. Just a change in your diet might be all you need.
I eat pasta. Salads . Chips once a week. Baked potatoes. All healthy stuff really for my training
 
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Bluetit1802

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I eat pasta. Salads . Chips once a week. Baked potatoes. All healthy stuff really for my training

Not healthy for diabetics though. There are plenty of sportspeople on the forum who manage brilliantly without starchy carbs. What particular reason do you think you need them for? All carbs convert to glucose once inside the system, and it is this glucose that has pushed your levels up.

Have a read through this forum
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/fitness-exercise-and-sport.33/

You have 2 choices, keep eating the carbs and expect more and more medication, or reduce the carbs and stay healthy. Carbs or feet? Its your choice.

Do you have your own meter? That should tell you what your meals are doing to you by testing before and 2 hours after eating.
 

Liam1955

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Hi @jacko3469 - I took Dapagliflozin before for a year (2015 to 2016) and then had a break of 10 months. It is a good drug but has 3 side effects that people suffer. I had 2 of the side effects repeatedly being the: Burning Urine and Thrush in my groin.
But, on the plus side it reduced my Blood Sugars, reduced my HBA1C from 81 to 56, and I lost 1stone in weight. :)
 

daisyduck

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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I eat pasta. Salads . Chips once a week. Baked potatoes. All healthy stuff really for my training

The carbs will not be doing your BG any favours. What is healthy for non-diabetics will spike our levels.
As @Bluetit1802 has suggested, it would be great for you to get a meter and test what these do to your levels.
Lower carbs shouldn't cause a problem with your training and exercise. I have been very low carb for 3 years now and have tons of energy :) I am also drug free and lowering my Hb readings with just this diet.. as are many on here.. Have a good look through the low carb success stories thread.
 
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Resurgam

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Your intake of carbs might be too concentrated, as it is pushing up your blood glucose levels and causing your Hb1ac to rise. Avoiding or reducing the pasta and potatoes should help keep your BG more stable.
Testing your blood at intervals after various meals ought to help you determine which foods cause your levels to rise disproportionately - it seems that carbs are not all created equal and also that they interact differently with different people - some can eat porridge for breakfast and others, like me, would see high levels for hours after.