pavlosn
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You are too kind
You are too kindNever change your method of getting your message across - the FORUM description just backed up what you were saying. Your "long monologue" was interesting to read (the phrase implies boring to me but that is one thing which you are not!)
For a lady (erm, well maybe not fully fitting of the image that implies) with mild fibromyalgia those things raise my bp (automatic ones) betcause they hurt so darned much - the nurses at the fb clinic pretty much poopooed the idea that pain could spike my BP....mmm, at least the specialist understood and the nurse at the health centre too. One of the doctors refuses to use those and sticks to the hand pump version when taking BPNo i don't .... if there's one thing I hate, it's that process. You can poke needles in me, do anything you want, but once that damned wrap is put around my upper arm, I hate itI can almost feel the BP rise as I'm afraid of the score.
The odd thing is that the more often they do it in the same session only minutes apart (and I insist on it as I tend to relax more and more intent on thinking of anything other than the result as the time goes by) the lower the BP reading is .... as much as 10 points.
Think in general terms its a subconscious fear of going to visit the doctor as much as specific tests being done. The fear raises the BP ...... even affects the dogs readings at the vets when they are listening to heart and lungsCall me dumb AB but is WCS simply fear of the regimented process? If that's the case, I'll just go buy one
Mike.
Welcome to the madhouse/thread/forum @Moniker - not seen you around before. Nice to see so many of us are doggy people (and those that havent got dogs as avatars are a great bunch too5.3 this morning
Interesting. This seems to be more a study on the blood glucose levels of people who are considered non-diabetic based on HbA1c and fasting blood glucose testing, rather than a study of completely healthy people with respect to their insulin resistance/beta cells. An alternate conclusion might be that people considered healthy based on fasting blood glucose and HbA1c tests, but have not had an OGTT, may not be 100% healthy with respect to glycemic control.
"The limitations of the current study include the absence of OGTTs to rule out diabetes with certainty or to classify participants as having IGT." What's missing from the study is that they didn't actually verify that the people were completely healthy.
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Probably not many. I've never had one. I wouldn't say that an OGTT is the best way to diagnose diabetes, just another way. I think it's possible to have "nondiabetic" results for 2 of the 3 tests and still be diabetic, although I suspect the other 2 would be quite high.I understand that this is based on the results of the non diabetic control group of a separate study dealing with glucose averages and HBa1c.
The study itself states that "non-diabetic participants were selected on the basis of having no history of diabetes, a plasma glucose level ≤5.4 mmol/l (97 mg/dl) after an overnight fast and HbA1c <6.5%. The plasma glucose cut-off was chosen due to its high specificity for excluding diabetes without performing an OGTT".
So if an oral glucose tolerance test (OGTT) is the best way to diagnose impaired glucose tolerance (IGT), and the other two widely used methods are unreliable, then you are right.
I was never actually given an OGTT myself, I was first diagnosed on the basis of a single fasting glucose count; mind you this was in the high teens so it did not leave much room for doubt!
I wonder how common OGTTs are?
It would be interesting to know what percentage of members have actually had one ( not a diy home OGTT but a proper hospital test)?
I was not given an Hba1c test either until about three months after diagnosis. I did not know to ask for one then.
Pavlos
I could be wrong, but I think @toto was only diagnosed through OGTT, her other counts being normal.Probably not many. I've never had one. I wouldn't say that an OGTT is the best way to diagnose diabetes, just another way. I think it's possible to have "nondiabetic" results for 2 of the 3 tests and still be diabetic, although I suspect the other 2 would be quite high.
Sounds clever. Saves time no doubt. Will investigate thank @Sable_JanMy Contour Next USB does this for me - though was a bit awkward to set up with Windows 8.1 was a doddle with Windows 7.
Probably a LOT of undiagnosed people out there who just get fasting tests that are normal.I could be wrong, but I think @toto was only diagnosed through OGTT, her other counts being normal.
Yes how did you know? I just got carried away,,,,Some people have found basmati to be ok. Maybe a smaller portion next time?
Have the same failing with "measuring" rice for a single portionYes how did you know? I just got carried away,,,,
I understand that this is based on the results of the non diabetic control group of a separate study dealing with glucose averages and HBa1c.
The study itself states that "non-diabetic participants were selected on the basis of having no history of diabetes, a plasma glucose level ≤5.4 mmol/l (97 mg/dl) after an overnight fast and HbA1c <6.5%. The plasma glucose cut-off was chosen due to its high specificity for excluding diabetes without performing an OGTT".
So if an oral glucose tolerance test (OGTT) is the best way to diagnose impaired glucose tolerance (IGT), and the other two widely used methods are unreliable, then you are right.
I was never actually given an OGTT myself, I was first diagnosed on the basis of a single fasting glucose count; mind you this was in the high teens so it did not leave much room for doubt!
I wonder how common OGTTs are?
It would be interesting to know what percentage of members have actually had one ( not a diy home OGTT but a proper hospital test)?
I was not given an Hba1c test either until about three months after diagnosis. I did not know to ask for one then.
Pavlos
Hi Diana! Well, I haveThis was exactly what my GP said to me yesterday - he even drew me a graph, showing me where I was and how everything beneath it was unsafe and too low. I haven't wanted to say too much here as I know some folk have purposely low targets or naturally low bs but it does seem to be the general medical belief that too low bs have as much risk of complications as high ones.Interesting we should both have encountered this theory within 24 hours
I'm only just catching up on here alliebee after a busy day with gp appointment and a job interview a couple of hours later- soon got to go out again to a school presentation evening, co-incedentally my GP has unsettled, confused and befuddled me too!! I intended starting a new thread to get everyone's opinion.....and I will do shortly!! Just going to catch up on posts here- think they are out to get us this week!!The trouble is as we know we are always given 'standard ' advice from drs and D nurses...I'm getting to the point of not knowing what's the best. I'm happy with my lower readings. And unsettled to get advice like this.
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