Type 2's: What was your fasting blood glucose in a morning?

[AndBreathe]

Well day 3 of my study and already it is throwing up some interesting things. My fasting blood sugars were 6.1 on day 1, 5.2 day 2, and 5.8 today.
I have found a meal with no carbs sends a pre meal bs from 4.4 to 5.1(ham and cheese omellette with salad) I tried an evening meal of Turkey breast peas and half a baked potato which sent my bs from 5.3 pre meal to 6.0 post meal. That was with 2 metformin 500. The next day I had the same thing for lunch to see what my bs would be without the metformin. It went from 4.3 pre meal to 6.2 post meal! Just shows what metformin does for you. So that leads me to thinking if I'm going to have carbs is it better to wait until I have to take my metformin?

Some nice readings there; especially after baked potato, which is one of my challenging foods.

I've never taken Metformin, but my belief is that it's effectiveness builds over a period of time, so there is little impact from any single dose, or forgotten dose for that matter. Over time, you will probably find your bloods can vary a bit, even when eating exactly the same meal. This can be due to so many other factors; for example, being tired, stressed, under the eather, what you ate at other meals in the preceding 24 hours-ish, if you are very hot/cold and so on. These things will become clearer as you buildup a database of figures you can review and digest (pardon the pun).

 

[AndBreathe]

It's a 4.7 this morning.

I'm going on a quick trip overseas for a week, a bit of skiing/r&r, and for some odd reason I'm not really keen on going, maybe it's the cold weather --shouldn't be complaining as it's a holiday! .

Enjoy twinnie!! Skiing is great. It's just a shame it needs to be so cold for all that snow stuff to work!!!

 

[Bluetit1802]

@killerkaz

I am not on any meds, and I agree with @AndBreathe that Metformin doesn't have any affect on spikes after meals. It doesn't work like insulin. It works in the liver, where it can help reduce the amount of glucose the liver dumps in your bloodstream when fasting or during exercise. Plus, it is cumulative, so a single dose has no effect. It needs to have a build up in your body in order for it to work. If it worked like insulin, those of us not on meds would be asking for it.

You were lucky to get away with the baked potato. You need to try the same meal several times for a true result.

 

[AndBreathe]

A tight 3.7 (not adjusted) for me this morning. I’m obviously happy with that, but I would expect to be extremely low, as I have reverted to tight low carb, in an attempt to get some insight into what’s going on. But, and it’s a big but, I can’t carry on like this for more than a few days or the pounds will drop off, and there are no pounds to drop off. I’ll be having a few more (standard, for me) cabs this evening, as we have Paella planned for dinner, so I’ll play it by ear for another couple of days, and take it from there.

My viral thingy appears to be on it’s way, I hope, with the runny nose hanging around, but the swollen glands and headache seem to have gone. Hurrah!

So, today I need to do some domestic stuff, so that’ll all be very spiffing, and if someone could tell me where we’ve stowed the binoculars, I’d be very happy.

Play nicely boys and girls.

 

[killerkaz]

Some nice readings there; especially after baked potato, which is one of my challenging foods.

I've never taken Metformin, but my belief is that it's effectiveness builds over a period of time, so there is little impact from any single dose, or forgotten dose for that matter. Over time, you will probably find your bloods can vary a bit, even when eating exactly the same meal. This can be due to so many other factors; for example, being tired, stressed, under the eather, what you ate at other meals in the preceding 24 hours-ish, if you are very hot/cold and so on. These things will become clearer as you buildup a database of figures you can review and digest (pardon the pun).

Hi, Yes I think baked potato's might not be on the main menu very often, keeping this log is actually helping a lot. As long as I can keep my bs between 4 and 7 pre and post meals I think I will be happy. Although the lower the better obviously, I won't lose any sleep over it. I feel I am beginning to feel my feet a little bit now although I know I have a long way to go and a lot of testing to do before I know what I can and can't eat.
Only been on metformin for 4 months so still don't know a great deal about it but I am going on a DESMOND course on wednesday so I hope to come out of it educated

 

[Bluetit1802]

Hi, Yes I think baked potato's might not be on the main menu very often, keeping this log is actually helping a lot. As long as I can keep my bs between 4 and 7 pre and post meals I think I will be happy. Although the lower the better obviously, I won't lose any sleep over it. I feel I am beginning to feel my feet a little bit now although I know I have a long way to go and a lot of testing to do before I know what I can and can't eat.
Only been on metformin for 4 months so still don't know a great deal about it but I am going on a DESMOND course on wednesday so I hope to come out of it educated

Good luck on Desmond. You may well find yourself being the one that does the educating.

 

[Sable_Jan]

Good luck on Desmond. You may well find yourself being the one that does the educating.

Quite agree with that @Bluetit1802 - mine wasn't a Desmond course but something similar but I answered Qs the presenters couldn't after having been on this site and forums for over a month before I went on it

 

[killerkaz]

Quite agree with that @Bluetit1802 - mine wasn't a Desmond course but something similar but I answered Qs the presenters couldn't after having been on this site and forums for over a month before I went on it

awww and here was I thinking it was going to be educational, ah well i am dragging my uncle to it who is also T2 diabetic for the last 10 years and still thinks he can eat all the cakes, chocolate, biscuits etc that he wants, him and the dog! with a bit of luck he might get a kick up the backside, he thinks I am going overboard in what I am doing and should just eat anything in moderation, (like his DPN has told him). I bet he finds an excuse not to go

 

[Bluetit1802]

awww and here was I thinking it was going to be educational, ah well i am dragging my uncle to it who is also T2 diabetic for the last 10 years and still thinks he can eat all the cakes, chocolate, biscuits etc that he wants, him and the dog! with a bit of luck he might get a kick up the backside, he thinks I am going overboard in what I am doing and should just eat anything in moderation, (like his DPN has told him). I bet he finds an excuse not to go

You are likely to be told to eat anything in moderation at Desmond, and will get biscuits and cakes at the coffee break.

 

[Sable_Jan]

awww and here was I thinking it was going to be educational, ah well i am dragging my uncle to it who is also T2 diabetic for the last 10 years and still thinks he can eat all the cakes, chocolate, biscuits etc that he wants, him and the dog! with a bit of luck he might get a kick up the backside, he thinks I am going overboard in what I am doing and should just eat anything in moderation, (like his DPN has told him). I bet he finds an excuse not to go

Naughty Uncle but if DN has told him that why should he believe otherwise - esp as he obvs likes all those thing. Trouble also is definition of "moderation" ........

 

[Sable_Jan]

Naughty Uncle but if DN has told him that why should he believe otherwise - esp as he obvs likes all those thing. Trouble also is definition of "moderation" ........

PS stop him giving the dog chocolate and cakes etc events if he carries on eating them himself

 

[Pasha]

You are likely to be told to eat anything in moderation at Desmond, and will get biscuits and cakes at the coffee break.

And possibly a little sugar for the coffee ?

 

[killerkaz]

And possibly a little sugar for the coffee ?

Your kidding?? No wonder there are so many badly controlled diabetics. My DPN told me I would more than likely be on insulin in 10 years on my first visit. Just think of how much money the NHS could save if they educated people in order for them to adopt a lifestyle that could reduce their medication and the many complications associated with diabetes. Instead it would be all to easy for people to think what's the point if they think they will just progressively get worse as time goes on. Don't these health care professionals keep up with research?

 

[Sable_Jan]

5.2. Too many 5's for my liking recently.

5s are good

 

[killerkaz]

PS stop him giving the dog chocolate and cakes etc events if he carries on eating them himself

I have nagged him for years about giving the dog chocolate, to no avail. They very often share a box of quality st, McDonald's, sausage n chips, you name it. Mind you the dog is 14 so he isn't going to stop now. As for my uncle he hasn't even got the decency to be overweight and his bs is always in the 5's and 6's. Don't know how he gets away with it but one day it will jump up and bite him on the bum!

 

[Sable_Jan]

I have nagged him for years about giving the dog chocolate, to no avail. They very often share a box of quality st, McDonald's, sausage n chips, you name it. Mind you the dog is 14 so he isn't going to stop now. As for my uncle he hasn't even got the decency to be overweight and his bs is always in the 5's and 6's. Don't know how he gets away with it but one day it will jump up and bite him on the bum!

Is he relying on meds to keep bs in check then?

 

[killerkaz]

Is he relying on meds to keep bs in check then?

Yes he's on metformin and another tablet but don't know which one. He has been told the next step is insulin, so he has cut down slightly, only having one cake instead of two when we go out shopping with my mum. I've tried explaining the damage he's doing to his pancreas and all the problems he's storing up for himself in a few years but because he feels well now he won't listen.

 

[Paul59]

I have nagged him for years about giving the dog chocolate, to no avail. They very often share a box of quality st, McDonald's, sausage n chips, you name it. Mind you the dog is 14 so he isn't going to stop now. As for my uncle he hasn't even got the decency to be overweight and his bs is always in the 5's and 6's. Don't know how he gets away with it but one day it will jump up and bite him on the bum!

Chocolate can kill dogs, the cocoa makes thier heart race . not to bad for a large dog as it needs a lot but small dogs it can be fatale.

 

[killerkaz]

Chocolate can kill dogs, the cocoa makes thier heart race . not to bad for a large dog as it needs a lot but small dogs it can be fatale.

It's a staffy bull, soft as soap. Seems to be like his owner, gets away with everything he shouldn't be able to. All I can say is they must both have the constitution of an ox.

 

[Paul59]

It's a staffy bull, soft as soap. Seems to be like his owner, gets away with everything he shouldn't be able to. All I can say is they must both have the constitution of an ox.

Well a staffie is a strong dog but as it's getting on in time maybe cutting right back may be called for. Ask the Vet next time your there & see what they have to say.
I'm only pointing this out cause our Yorkiepoo (yes yorkiepoo) cross between yorkie & poodle, get hold of some chocolate the grandson left on a table, about 60grams of it, phoned the vet & we had to take he straight down as an emergency to have an injection that makes them violently sick to remove the chocolate. Bill £100, only to return home to find the littlen monkey had hid it & not eaten it, poor little chap having to go through that when he had not eaten it at all. They work it on an amount to size ratio.