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Very low cal diets - a good idea or not?

Discussion in 'Low Calorie Diets' started by zand, Apr 20, 2017.

  1. Brunneria

    Brunneria Other · Moderator
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    I've had some success with very low calorie diets - admittedly 20-30 years ago.
    I got all Born Again and Zealoty about them too.
    Actually believed that 'anyone can do it' - for a while.
    :(
    If only I had known...

    I think overall I probably lost about 7 or 8 stone across several diets and several years. The lowest calorie intake was several weeks at 330 cals a day. It was a shake that I made up with water. Others were veg only, and I recall one that was mainly cabbage. O joy. Each time I would lose, be overjoyed, and then simply fall off the wagon and face first into every high calorie, high carb food item I could find. Will power was like a candle in a hurricane as my body took over and sent me face first into carb fests of Epic proportions. Ironic really, considering the will power I regularly exert over other parts of my life.

    The weight gain after each diet was quite horrifyingly rapid - as though my body was driving me to eat and regain - which of course it was.

    Every time I ended up weighing more than I started.

    In retrospect, it was perhaps unfair to expect a teenage body with reactive hypoglycaemia, polycystic ovary syndrome and a prolactinoma to react like a 'normal' person. But then I had no idea at the time that my hormones were so severely dysfunctional. :) You live and learn, eh?

    The net result was that I seem to have taught my body to rapidly adjust its metabolic rate to varying food intake.

    Bit of a pity, really.

    Low cal diets definitely suit some people. Especially if they have 'normal' hormones, and 'normal' appetite controls, and haven't ever dieted before, or had any Yoyo dieting experiences. Horses for courses, eh?
     
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  2. zand

    zand Type 2 · Expert

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    1100-1200 a day.
     
  3. Bluetit1802

    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Guru

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    That seems about right to me. Plenty of calories and food to give you all the nutrients, vitamins and minerals you need without putting your body under stress and making you ill, like you say very low calorie diets have done to you in the past. Would sticking to low carb, increasing protein and making the rest up with fats with some intermittent fasting work?
     
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  4. zand

    zand Type 2 · Expert

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    Yes maybe, I'm just feeling very low about it all today. I do think I need to go lower than 50g carbs, and that means cutting down on the amount of raspberries and strawberries I eat. Yes I'll start again tomorrow. (Well right now really since I've finished eating for the day:))
     
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  5. Lamont D

    Lamont D Reactive hypoglycemia · Master

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    OMG! I've just started and I've been up since six am!
     
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  6. zand

    zand Type 2 · Expert

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    I thought you were supposed to be eating a small snack every hour? Or was I dreaming that?!:)
     
  7. I don't know what to suggest, but I do think that what worked in the past might not work now. Stupid diabetes and hormones keep moving the goalposts. Try something new - if feeling like you need to be punished isn't working out for you, try spoiling yourself instead by eating only the best, most delicious, healthy food you can get hold of. You deserve it x
     
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  8. Lamont D

    Lamont D Reactive hypoglycemia · Master

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    No, I'm back to IF and very low carb!
    My idiot diet!
    Read my blog!

    Wake up!
     
  9. daisyduck

    daisyduck Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I have dieted all my adult life. The cabbage diet.. yuk! the shake diet , very low calorie etc etc. I've lost weight so many times and put it all straight back on.

    Several years ago I decided I probably wasn't eating enough and scrupulously followed the one of the Slimming World magazine diets. I weighed every single thing and never went over 1200 calories in 3 months.
    The first month I lost 10 pounds
    The second month I stayed the same
    The third month I gained 4 pounds !

    I truly think I have slowed my metabolism . I have been diagnosed with metabolic syndrome so I assume that is what it means ?

    LCHF helped me lose 2 stones and I can now maintain fairly easily.. however I'm finding it almost impossible to lose any more. I've been the same weight for 2 years now and still have a couple of stones I would love to lose.
    30g of carbs is ok for maintenance for me. Even under 20g doesn't guarantee weight loss now unfortunately :(

    However just to throw a spanner in the works. I've been a bit naughty lately.. hubby has been very ill and I've been very stressed. Last night I gave in and had 8 Celebrations chocolates.. BG went up to 12.. eek ! but soon dropped again.. However.. this morning my scales showed a loss of a pound for the first time in ages ???
     
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  10. douglas99

    douglas99 I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    This is why our metabolisms are so very different.
    You had 8 celebrations.
    In the past my snack was easily eight full sized bars, washed down with coffee and donuts.
    But then nothing for the rest of the day, and heavy work with that.
    I guess I did, and still balance my diet over a week, or even a month, rather than days.
    It seems history plays a large part in our present.
     
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  11. Lamont D

    Lamont D Reactive hypoglycemia · Master

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    An old saying is,

    You are (weight) what you ate last month!
     
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  12. douglas99

    douglas99 I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I would agree entirely.
    But I'd include drank, lol!
     
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  13. zand

    zand Type 2 · Expert

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    I could have written your post myself. :) I too lost 2 stones with LCHF which I have maintained. I have a lot more to lose though and would like to start on the next 2 stones.

    Thanks for your support. :)
     
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