Vitanix glucose watch

[wookie101]

Hi all,

I've been on the lookout, as quite a few of us are, for a non finger pricking was to take glucose monitoring.

There have been rumours for years that apple is busy developing one..

But I noticed this today feoma company called Vitanix, here's the link to the advert that I saw.

https://newsdailystore.com/vitanix/...ZagL23QrA6LHRm9gGCyD5_mQorsiz__DUnpiNATDotj8#

My question is, is this a hoax? As I would of thought that the press would be on fire if this was real ....


Can anyone advise?

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[Antje77]

There are currently no watches that monitor blood glucose in any trustworthy way without a glucose sensor.

 

[wirelessnutt]

Uh.. I disagree With Antje77, but I appreciate this is VERY NEW. Vitanix apparently does! No idea how good it is yet, Smart Watch 9. I own one, and not only does it do Blood Glucose, it does Blood Pressure and Fats too! I've had all of 60 mins figuring stuff out. So your mileage may vary. Download the App from the Google Play Store to get going quickly. Everything starts out in Chinese! The HaFit app handles that for you.

 

[KennyA]

All of these "non-invasive" blood glucose monitoring watches have been around for some time now and they all appear to be scams, pure and simple. They are very light on the "how it works" bit, and just seem to work off "estimates" - for which I read "made up".

As the price per watch is usually in the same ballpark as a month's CGM, you'd wonder why, if they work, health services aren't taking them up and firms like Abbot and Dexcom aren't buying into them. Don't waste your money.

 

[Chris24Main]

There is a ton of money to be made by the first company to offer a non-invasive solution, which means there is also a ton on money to be made by claiming to offer a non-invasive solution.

Samsung now claim to be able to show a metric linked to "advanced glycation products" in order to give you a kind of health score, but while the wording seems both specific (HbA1c is specifically a glycation product, that is what the standard test actually measures) and wooly (doesn't say how, and it treads very carefully around the fact that you simply cannot legally make a claim without approval that they don't have).

I, purely as an engineer, cannot see a mechanism for distinguishing the amount of soluble stuff inside the medium it's dissolved in without either getting into that medium (as CGMs do) or by some form of spectrum analysis (as the newer generation of liquid analysis machines do at airports) which would involve much more radiation than the back of a smartwatch is going to be able to project or collect.

I can only see that there must be more (and clever) processing of the light reflected back from the blood vessels on the wrist - what is possible now would have seemed fanciful only a few years ago, but that doesn't mean that one will lead to the other.

And I say this while I wear a hybrid watch that can give me an EKG and measure blood oxygen, but I know that it does that by measuring small variations in capacitance. I'm all for more data...

I also have a blood pressure monitor from the same company, it does have medical approval, and works in exactly the same way as if you were having blood pressure measured in a hospital. I would love to compare the results with anything a watch was claiming to show for blood pressure. Maybe I'd be surprised, but again, I don't see a good mechanism.

But - never say never, just be very wary about spending any money for now...

 

[Chris24Main]

For completeness sake, I also daily use a set of scales that gives me a measure of overall fat vs muscle and water (critical not to lose any weight by losing muscle), and visceral fat, as well as an indication of nerve health, so I'm not averse to using tech for providing motivation, but in this case, the machine is sending electrical signals from one side of my body through my feet to the other - over several electrodes. I just don't see a watch being able to do anything like the same job, even if your wrist could give you a sense of a whole body in terms of fat storage. No significant adipose tissue.

 

[sgm14]

Uh.. I disagree With Antje77, but I appreciate this is VERY NEW. Vitanix apparently does! No idea how good it is yet, Smart Watch 9. I own one, and not only does it do Blood Glucose, it does Blood Pressure and Fats too! I've had all of 60 mins figuring stuff out. So your mileage may vary. Download the App from the Google Play Store to get going quickly. Everything starts out in Chinese! The HaFit app handles that for you.

I'm afraid I'm agree with Antjee77

There are a load of these watches which claim to do this but when tested they are either so inaccurate as to be worse than useless or possibly even outright scams (as in they just return a random number).

Not sure how new this is, but they have been claiming their watch did glucose monitoring for at least six months.

If it really worked they would not have lasted this long below the radar. (Just think how much money Apple would throw at any company who had a reliable non-invasive way of detecting blood glucose levels).

 

[LittleGreyCat]

General rule is "If it looks too good to be true it probably is.".

 

[In Response]

Uh.. I disagree With Antje77, but I appreciate this is VERY NEW. Vitanix apparently does! No idea how good it is yet, Smart Watch 9. I own one, and not only does it do Blood Glucose, it does Blood Pressure and Fats too! I've had all of 60 mins figuring stuff out. So your mileage may vary. Download the App from the Google Play Store to get going quickly. Everything starts out in Chinese! The HaFit app handles that for you.

There are many which report they do it but they have all proven to be as accurate as a random number generator.
It would be amazing if Vitanix proves to be THE one but I would expect it to be released with much more fanfare if it really worked.

 

[Chris24Main]

As luck would have it, my Google feed just served me up an advert for a similar company - one of these ads which then leads on to "let's see what our independent panel of reviewers thought..."

it's pretty compelling, and really cheap... or at least really cheap, if you think it does what it claims (but I know that you just can't make something that does half of these functions for that kind of money)

so, no.