Crimsonclient
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If you talk to the slimming world leader they can modify the diet for diabetics
Type 2 diagnosed 24/01/2013.
Novomix 30, Victoza, metformin 2000mg sr (but not taking them as they play havoc with my insides,
If you talk to the slimming world leader they can modify the diet for diabeticsBeen doing slimming world extra easy since before diagnosis (2 weeks since D-day and 8 weeks dieting, lost 15.5lb so far) Am finding spikes left right and centre with the foods 'allowed' with SW food optimising. As pasta, potatoes, rice and noodles are 'free' then I dont think its particularly diabetes friendly, so am going to try thisx
I followed Atkins diet about 8 years ago but only for about three months as I was having too much stomach and bowel problem. During that time I lost about 1 stone in weight (may have been water mainly) . Immediately put the weight back on when I resumed a normal (but still lowish carb ) diet. Very shortly afterwards I was diagnosed with diabetes. Don't know for sure if this was related but I have read that a very high protein/fat diet can lead to this. Now 6 years later I've gone through the tablet and diet treament, metformin, byetta, victoza and basal only insulin, none of which worked well. Now use Humulog mix 50 along with low carb. During this time my weight remained pretty constant, but as soon as I started the Humulog I put 12kg on which I cannot shift and blood glucose still unpredictable and high. Very fed up with it allVery new to this but want to get the carbs down, one question i have is how do you use cauli in place of rice ? i love pasta and rice so they will take some getting rid of, I really do need to go low carb as my levels are very unstable and since going on Gliclazide along with Metformin they have increased and I have started to put more weight on, (just what I need....not) I really do need to get this sorted as I also suffer with congestive heart failure so weight is a big factor in my life, great forum BTW
@Seano - have a look in the low-carb diet section. Essentially you should grate a head of cauliflower and then fry it in butter with salt and pepper to taste. You need quite a lot of butter, but is actually really good.
You could also microwave it if you wanted to but where's the fun in that?
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Dillinger
I followed Atkins diet about 8 years ago but only for about three months as I was having too much stomach and bowel problem. During that time I lost about 1 stone in weight (may have been water mainly) . Immediately put the weight back on when I resumed a normal (but still lowish carb ) diet. Very shortly afterwards I was diagnosed with diabetes. Don't know for sure if this was related but I have read that a very high protein/fat diet can lead to this. Now 6 years later I've gone through the tablet and diet treament, metformin, byetta, victoza and basal only insulin, none of which worked well. Now use Humulog mix 50 along with low carb. During this time my weight remained pretty constant, but as soon as I started the Humulog I put 12kg on which I cannot shift and blood glucose still unpredictable and high. Very fed up with it all
Please find below a version of the Atkins Induction diet that I simplified to send to my brother. That version was for weight loss; I've modified it a bit for diabetes.
It works for me; when I was on it before (2004/05) I lost 50lb in the first 6 months, 5.5 stone in 18 months, and I have never felt better. I was also doing about 25 miles weekly walking the Irish Wolfhound exercise machine. Then the dog died :cry: , I started eating carbs again, and now I'm back where I started. My doctor monitored me carefully throughout; my blood pressure dropped to 120/75, and though my total cholesterol would have been considered high for a diabetic at 5.4, my total:HDL ratio was 3.3, and my triglycerides were 0.65. All that is now to do again, plus managing the diabetes, but the first 2 stone is off already and the blood glucose levels are nicely down. Only 6 more stone to go!
WARNING!
This is a high-fat, low-carb diet and is not suitable for everyone. Some people can't eat fat for medical reasons, other people simply can't tolerate it, so think about it carefully.
Basic low-carb diet
Golden Rules: eat at least 3 times a day, more if you want. DON'T over-eat. Snacking is fine, but stick to protein (meat, fish, cheese, eggs). Make sure you eat fat - it's essential to make the diet work.
Drink at least 2 litres of water every day. Tap water is fine.
Read all food labels.
OKAY
all fresh meat types - lamb, beef, pork, chicken, duck, turkey, goose, venison and other game;
all fish; oily fish is particularly good, eg tuna, mackerel, salmon. Tinned is okay. Shellfish too, except oysters; smoked is okay (check the labels).
processed meat, eg sausage, burgers, ham, bacon, corned beef etc, but check for carb content on the label (eg no breadcrumbed ham, or honey roast ham);sausage and burger with maximum meat content and minimum carbohydrate; smoked and processed meats are okay but read the labels for nasty chemicals;
butter, olive oil etc
eggs
dairy - use very little milk (contains some carbohydrate) but butter, cream and hard cheese (up to 4oz daily) are okay. Also live unsweetened yoghurt;
salad veg, eg all lettuce types, toms, peppers, cucumber, radishes - a total of 8oz salad per day
other veg - all green leafy veg, asparagus, celery, cauliflower, broccoli, courgettes, aubergines, fennel, leeks, onions, green beans - a total of 8oz per day. Some of these contain higher amounts of carbs (eg tomatoes, leeks & onions, which contain some sugar) but are okay in moderate quantities (so don't eat a whole tin of tomatoes with your sausages!).
Avocado once a week, if liked. Very good for you. Also a handful of olives occasionally. Not stuffed!
Salad dressings, chutneys etc as long as minimum carb - read the labels.
Mayonnaise is fine - I use Hellman's. NB not low-fat.
Rhubarb is okay! Sweeten stewed rhubarb with dissolved Splenda tablets and eat with cream or live natural yoghurt. Don't eat every day, and don't go mad!
Sweetener - I use Splenda, tablets in drinks; dissolve them for other things. The granulated contains maltodextrin which affects blood glucose. Other sweeteners are available, of course.
With curry or casserole, use cauliflower instead of rice or potatoes. Very good!
AVOID
All starchy vegetables eg potatoes, carrots, swede, turnip, sweetcorn, beans, peas, broad beans; all dried pulses. This list is not comprehensive!
No sugar – does that need saying?
Anything that contains flour - bread, cakes, biscuits, cream crackers, pastry, sauces (eg cheese) and thick gravies. No pasta, rice or cereals except for occasional All-bran, eaten with very little milk. Oat bran (obtainable from health food shops) can be used as a thickener, also sprinkled on things (eg inside an omelette with the filling, or with stewed rhubarb) to aid against constipation. The rhubarb will help there too.
(Fibre eg bran isn't absorbed by the gut, so doesn't count as carbohydrate)
Tea and coffee – some recommend avoiding caffeine. Best to use in moderation.
Drink 2 litres of water daily. Herbal teas are okay.
Avoid all highly processed foods eg margarines, and anything that is full of nasty chemicals.
Some ready meals are okay but read the labels. A good rule of thumb is, avoid anything with more than 5 grams of carb per 100 grams, and eat only very occasionally.
NO alcohol is best. It can slow down weight loss because your body can use it for fuel. It can contain carbs, so check
Be very suspicious of anything called 'diet' or ‘lite’ - it's probably stuffed full of carbs.
I never have either headaches or bad breath, which some people complain of. If you get a headache at the beginning, don't worry - it will go off. Drink plenty of water because you'll shed a lot of water at the beginning of the diet.
I didn't know about rhubarb when I first started this diet, but it certainly helps if you get constipated. Also bran. Also live yoghurt. Add flax seeds if necessary - they help too. Available at health food shops - also called linseed. If you’re on Metformin as well you shouldn’t have a problem.
You may want to take a multi-vitamin and mineral tablet, but there's really no need.
The whole point of this diet is to eat enough fat and protein. You don't have to think about calories, just carbohydrates. You can eat as much of the allowed foods as you want, unless limits are given, but don't over-eat. Eat until you’re satisfied, not stuffed.
It's basically a low-glycaemic index diet, eating fresh and unprocessed foods, with plenty of fat.
Eating from this food list, in the given quantities, will give you about 25 grams of carbohydrate per day. It’s then easy, with the help of one of the carb-counter books, to add on carbs up to the quantity you require. Different vegetables, for instance, the lower-carb fruits, or nuts as snacks.
To make cauliflower more 'interesting', to the grated cauliflower add spices to taste, I use freshly ground coriander, cumin seeds and turmeric as well as celtic sea salt, then fry in a good knob of butter.Very new to this but want to get the carbs down, one question i have is how do you use cauli in place of rice ? i love pasta and rice so they will take some getting rid of, I really do need to go low carb as my levels are very unstable and since going on Gliclazide along with Metformin they have increased and I have started to put more weight on, (just what I need....not) I really do need to get this sorted as I also suffer with congestive heart failure so weight is a big factor in my life, great forum BTW
hi started yesterday..... but feeling pretty woozy and a bit rubbish today, had 2 eggs scrambled with cheese for brekkie. should i stop as feeling rubbish?
Please find below a version of the Atkins Induction diet that I simplified to send to my brother. That version was for weight loss; I've modified it a bit for diabetes.
It works for me; when I was on it before (2004/05) I lost 50lb in the first 6 months, 5.5 stone in 18 months, and I have never felt better. I was also doing about 25 miles weekly walking the Irish Wolfhound exercise machine. Then the dog died :cry: , I started eating carbs again, and now I'm back where I started. My doctor monitored me carefully throughout; my blood pressure dropped to 120/75, and though my total cholesterol would have been considered high for a diabetic at 5.4, my total:HDL ratio was 3.3, and my triglycerides were 0.65. All that is now to do again, plus managing the diabetes, but the first 2 stone is off already and the blood glucose levels are nicely down. Only 6 more stone to go!
WARNING!
This is a high-fat, low-carb diet and is not suitable for everyone. Some people can't eat fat for medical reasons, other people simply can't tolerate it, so think about it carefully.
Basic low-carb diet
Golden Rules: eat at least 3 times a day, more if you want. DON'T over-eat. Snacking is fine, but stick to protein (meat, fish, cheese, eggs). Make sure you eat fat - it's essential to make the diet work.
Drink at least 2 litres of water every day. Tap water is fine.
Read all food labels.
OKAY
all fresh meat types - lamb, beef, pork, chicken, duck, turkey, goose, venison and other game;
all fish; oily fish is particularly good, eg tuna, mackerel, salmon. Tinned is okay. Shellfish too, except oysters; smoked is okay (check the labels).
processed meat, eg sausage, burgers, ham, bacon, corned beef etc, but check for carb content on the label (eg no breadcrumbed ham, or honey roast ham);sausage and burger with maximum meat content and minimum carbohydrate; smoked and processed meats are okay but read the labels for nasty chemicals;
butter, olive oil etc
eggs
dairy - use very little milk (contains some carbohydrate) but butter, cream and hard cheese (up to 4oz daily) are okay. Also live unsweetened yoghurt;
salad veg, eg all lettuce types, toms, peppers, cucumber, radishes - a total of 8oz salad per day
other veg - all green leafy veg, asparagus, celery, cauliflower, broccoli, courgettes, aubergines, fennel, leeks, onions, green beans - a total of 8oz per day. Some of these contain higher amounts of carbs (eg tomatoes, leeks & onions, which contain some sugar) but are okay in moderate quantities (so don't eat a whole tin of tomatoes with your sausages!).
Avocado once a week, if liked. Very good for you. Also a handful of olives occasionally. Not stuffed!
Salad dressings, chutneys etc as long as minimum carb - read the labels.
Mayonnaise is fine - I use Hellman's. NB not low-fat.
Rhubarb is okay! Sweeten stewed rhubarb with dissolved Splenda tablets and eat with cream or live natural yoghurt. Don't eat every day, and don't go mad!
Sweetener - I use Splenda, tablets in drinks; dissolve them for other things. The granulated contains maltodextrin which affects blood glucose. Other sweeteners are available, of course.
With curry or casserole, use cauliflower instead of rice or potatoes. Very good!
AVOID
All starchy vegetables eg potatoes, carrots, swede, turnip, sweetcorn, beans, peas, broad beans; all dried pulses. This list is not comprehensive!
No sugar – does that need saying?
Anything that contains flour - bread, cakes, biscuits, cream crackers, pastry, sauces (eg cheese) and thick gravies. No pasta, rice or cereals except for occasional All-bran, eaten with very little milk. Oat bran (obtainable from health food shops) can be used as a thickener, also sprinkled on things (eg inside an omelette with the filling, or with stewed rhubarb) to aid against constipation. The rhubarb will help there too.
(Fibre eg bran isn't absorbed by the gut, so doesn't count as carbohydrate)
Tea and coffee – some recommend avoiding caffeine. Best to use in moderation.
Drink 2 litres of water daily. Herbal teas are okay.
Avoid all highly processed foods eg margarines, and anything that is full of nasty chemicals.
Some ready meals are okay but read the labels. A good rule of thumb is, avoid anything with more than 5 grams of carb per 100 grams, and eat only very occasionally.
NO alcohol is best. It can slow down weight loss because your body can use it for fuel. It can contain carbs, so check
Be very suspicious of anything called 'diet' or ‘lite’ - it's probably stuffed full of carbs.
I never have either headaches or bad breath, which some people complain of. If you get a headache at the beginning, don't worry - it will go off. Drink plenty of water because you'll shed a lot of water at the beginning of the diet.
I didn't know about rhubarb when I first started this diet, but it certainly helps if you get constipated. Also bran. Also live yoghurt. Add flax seeds if necessary - they help too. Available at health food shops - also called linseed. If you’re on Metformin as well you shouldn’t have a problem.
You may want to take a multi-vitamin and mineral tablet, but there's really no need.
The whole point of this diet is to eat enough fat and protein. You don't have to think about calories, just carbohydrates. You can eat as much of the allowed foods as you want, unless limits are given, but don't over-eat. Eat until you’re satisfied, not stuffed.
It's basically a low-glycaemic index diet, eating fresh and unprocessed foods, with plenty of fat.
Eating from this food list, in the given quantities, will give you about 25 grams of carbohydrate per day. It’s then easy, with the help of one of the carb-counter books, to add on carbs up to the quantity you require. Different vegetables, for instance, the lower-carb fruits, or nuts as snacks.
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