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'We are all different'

Andy12345 said:
We are all different seems a ridiculous response to anything in my limited opinion, it's a non statement

It's basically saying, I disagree but have no explanation or don't want to explain why

Unless someone on the forum didn't realise that we are all different?

It's as useful as saying "we all breath air"
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I wouldn't say ' We are all different seems ridiculous. It is a statement !! and yes we all breath air, some more than others, some less and some with great difficulty, so again we are all different. If a member would like to know what is meant by that, they could ask ie:- can I ask what you mean by 'we are all different in regard to your views on diabetes or your regime ? Thank you :)


RRB :)
 
Robinredbreast said:
I wouldn't say ' We are all different seems ridiculous. It is a statement !! and yes we all breath air, some more than others, some less and some with great difficulty, so again we are all different. If a member would like to know what is meant by that, they could ask ie:- can I ask what you mean by 'we are all different in regard to your views on diabetes or your regime ? Thank you :)


RRB :)
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I don't care if someone says we are all different lol but to me it is ridiculous and I therefore reserve the right to find it ridiculous as this is part of my differentness, this thread is about discussing the term and I'm giving my opinion on it

When the term is used as a way of rubbishing an idea it isn't so good

To me it is sometimes used as a tool to avoid giving a sensible response, for example

I eat sugar

Sugar is not good to eat

We are all different

In this example it is used to suggest that eating sugar is ok for some, this may well be the case but as a general rule, eating sugar is bad

You could use the example of ice cream, because someone is able to eat ice cream, that doesn't mean it's a good idea to suggest it's ok to the average newly diagnosed person

So someone out there is struggling with their new life and they see the wrong kind of message being given but hiding under the "we are all different" umbrella, they could start thinking well that person eats ice cream and they have 2000000 posts and 50000000000 likes, they must be experts on diabetes, I'll go ahead and eat it

In this way I believe it's used badly

In other instances I think it's fine

I am allowed to think like this because we are all different lol

I have articulation issues so I appologise if this makes zero sense
 
Andy12345 said:
How about "we are all the same"?

After all if we share 60% of our genetics with fruit flies and something like 98% with chimps, how different can one human be to another?

So I think it should be "we all think different"
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0n average, we're 99.9% identical to other human beings so humans have two legs, not much hair, quite big brains, no tail, opposing thumbs .There is a blueprint for a human.

But you know we aren't that similar . Just look around you. Some have red hair or black hair .Some are tall, some are short. One person has wet ear wax another dry. We may flush bright red when we drink alcohol or get a pain when we drink milk. We may have a susceptibility to a disease, we may have one from birth, we may even have protection from a disease (and sometimes both at the same time; the variation that causes sickle cell disease also protects against malaria)
Some may react to certain drugs and others not, some may be more likely to have high cholesterol or low glucose levels. There are a multitude of differences between humans
The reason why is that 0.1% difference is actually quite a lot!

You have 2 sets of 23 chromosomes, one set from each parent with 3 billion pairs of bases on each set (bases are the building blocks ) so you have 6 billion base pairs altogether.
The order of the base pairs determines what proteins the body makes and how much it makes ie it is the code that makes you ..
That 0.1% means that there is about 1 difference in every thousand base pairs but with 6billion base pairs it's a lot.
That works out at 6 million base pair differences between individuals.
Many of those differences won't make a big difference in what someone is like but some of the variation can alter way the code is read and what proteins are made ,and how much of them are made (or not made.) The genes also interact with each other so the variation in one place can alter another.
That 0.1% matters .
(it's the same for all animals; just think how many different varieties of dogs there are or even colours of budgies )

(and then we all have different enviroments that are different from the womb onwards and that also causes a huge amount of variation, on top of the heritable variation. )
 
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I am struggling to think of the last time I heard anyone outside of this forum say, "We are all different." It is so bloomin' obvious that nobody says it.
 
I use the We are all different as a shield against being banned. As in I know I do high fat low carb and I know some are told they will die shortly if they eat fat whereas I have learned I will die if my blood sugar is high long or short term but we are all different - may you live long and prosper regardless of all the scientific evidence!
 
Totto said:
I use the We are all different as a shield against being banned. As in I know I do high fat low carb and I know some are told they will die shortly if they eat fat whereas I have learned I will die if my blood sugar is high long or short term but we are all different - may you live long and prosper regardless of all the scientific evidence!
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" in my opinion /experience " we are all different :D

Disclaimer: the above is the opinion of the writer, and does not imply a definitive fact or negative regard of the reader. All upset, outrage and offence is solely under the ownership of the reader .

(Manual of Politically Correct B@ll@cks. Page 1,587 , Section "C" paragraph 4 .)

Signy
 
I just think it's a harmless expression that says "hey i appreciate i haven't walked a mile in your shoes." No judgement. This is how it works for me. I offer my experience as support & hopefully it may apply to resolving your query or issue or rant...
 
Jaylee said:
I just think it's a harmless expression that says "hey i appreciate i haven't walked a mile in your shoes." No judgement. This is how it works for me. I offer my experience as support & hopefully it may apply to resolving your query or issue or rant...
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You are a nice and rather naive lad, aren't you? We are all different.
 
I am guilty!!!

I just mean that we all have differing lifestyles in general, different circumstances and different way of interpreting the written word.

I try to consider "mindfulness" when writing, thinking that the other person reading may get upset from my opinions, sometimes I just think I say " we are all different, or " we are all individual" from frustration that some fraught conversations between posters can occur. Mainly because posters forget "mindfulness".
 
Andy12345 said:
You could use the example of ice cream, because someone is able to eat ice cream, that doesn't mean it's a good idea to suggest it's ok to the average newly diagnosed person

So someone out there is struggling with their new life and they see the wrong kind of message being given but hiding under the "we are all different" umbrella, they could start thinking well that person eats ice cream and they have 2000000 posts and 50000000000 likes, they must be experts on diabetes, I'll go ahead and eat it

In this way I believe it's used badly

In other instances I think it's fine

I am allowed to think like this because we are all different lol

I have articulation issues so I appologise if this makes zero sense
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So what would you want them to do? Count the votes, decide what's the 'general opinion' and live by that?

When I was diagnosed three months ago, I was desperate. I thought my life ended, that I will never again be able to eat any of things I liked - including ice cream. It was people who said they could eat ice cream that were giving me hope and strength to struggle with the diet and everything. :)

And it was the people who said, 'go ahead and eat it' that helped me most. Know what you eat. Don't be afraid to try new things, but do it carefully. Test often. = Three best rules I got about diabetes so far.

For example, banana. I was so confused about it, because so many people said it's bad - it has many carbs, it increases your BG, it makes you fat, you should avoid it... But my book about nutrition and carb counting I got when I was diagnosed claimed the opposite - it's good, because it has low GI, lots of useful nutrients, and can help you lower your weight and control your blood sugar.

What should I believe?


I solved the dilemma by buying a kilo of bananas. :P And I did my private little research. I tried bananas at different time of day, in different combinations, different portions, different ripeness. MY personal results are: not a good idea to eat very ripe banana, or in combination with cereals, or in the evening. Good idea to have one not very ripe piece with a glass of milk, creamy fresh cheese or yoghurt and for breakfast.

But, we ARE all different. As I said, those are my results based on my readings. I won't generalise and say that's how others should eat bananas or that banana is good for everyone. But, if I see someone asking about banana, I WILL tell them - go ahead and eat it. Find the answers for yourself.
 
Sigalit said:
So what would you want them to do? Count the votes, decide what's the 'general opinion' and live by that?

When I was diagnosed three months ago, I was desperate. I thought my life ended, that I will never again be able to eat any of things I liked - including ice cream. It was people who said they could eat ice cream that were giving me hope and strength to struggle with the diet and everything. :)

And it was the people who said, 'go ahead and eat it' that helped me most. Know what you eat. Don't be afraid to try new things, but do it carefully. Test often. = Three best rules I got about diabetes so far.

For example, banana. I was so confused about it, because so many people said it's bad - it has many carbs, it increases your BG, it makes you fat, you should avoid it... But my book about nutrition and carb counting I got when I was diagnosed claimed the opposite - it's good, because it has low GI, lots of useful nutrients, and can help you lower your weight and control your blood sugar.

What should I believe?


I solved the dilemma by buying a kilo of bananas. :p And I did my private little research. I tried bananas at different time of day, in different combinations, different portions, different ripeness. MY personal results are: not a good idea to eat very ripe banana, or in combination with cereals, or in the evening. Good idea to have one not very ripe piece with a glass of milk, creamy fresh cheese or yoghurt and for breakfast.

But, we ARE all different. As I said, those are my results based on my readings. I won't generalise and say that's how others should eat bananas or that banana is good for everyone. But, if I see someone asking about banana, I WILL tell them - go ahead and eat it. Find the answers for yourself.
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And even bananas can be very different depending on ripeness or other factors as you have proved. Good job, very scientific.
 
Sigalit said:
So what would you want them to do? Count the votes, decide what's the 'general opinion' and live by that?

When I was diagnosed three months ago, I was desperate. I thought my life ended, that I will never again be able to eat any of things I liked - including ice cream. It was people who said they could eat ice cream that were giving me hope and strength to struggle with the diet and everything. :)

And it was the people who said, 'go ahead and eat it' that helped me most. Know what you eat. Don't be afraid to try new things, but do it carefully. Test often. = Three best rules I got about diabetes so far.

For example, banana. I was so confused about it, because so many people said it's bad - it has many carbs, it increases your BG, it makes you fat, you should avoid it... But my book about nutrition and carb counting I got when I was diagnosed claimed the opposite - it's good, because it has low GI, lots of useful nutrients, and can help you lower your weight and control your blood sugar.

What should I believe?


I solved the dilemma by buying a kilo of bananas. :P And I did my private little research. I tried bananas at different time of day, in different combinations, different portions, different ripeness. MY personal results are: not a good idea to eat very ripe banana, or in combination with cereals, or in the evening. Good idea to have one not very ripe piece with a glass of milk, creamy fresh cheese or yoghurt and for breakfast.

But, we ARE all different. As I said, those are my results based on my readings. I won't generalise and say that's how others should eat bananas or that banana is good for everyone. But, if I see someone asking about banana, I WILL tell them - go ahead and eat it. Find the answers for yourself.
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Hi, I'm glad you found a method that suits you but in my opinion the advice "go ahead and eat it, find the answers for yourself" is not advice at all

If the only advice is buy a meter and test what you eat, that's fine, and good advice!

But there is so much more that can be learned from the experience of others

When I was diagnosed I need to drastically change my blood glucose, I never had time to test everything I ate so I took advice as to what foods make my bloods rise, cut them out and then tested foods to see what they did over time

If I had received your advice alone, I would have not needed the forum from the first posts, which told me to get a meter
 
Just about everything I've read says bananas are bad for bg levels and I can say apart from twice, once after a long race and half someone gave me during the London marathon I haven't touched them

I haven't tested them, I've trusted the huge amount of research
 
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