On diagnosis I was advised to eat Shredded Wheat or Porridge for breakfast. Shredded Wheat I find as appetising as cardboard but I do have porridge. Interestingly though, I have found Weetaflakes are the best for keeping my blood sugars down.(4.9 when I tested at 11.40this morning) Just thought I'd suggest this cereal to anyone bored of their normal breakfast eats.
Weetaflakes
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Am I alone in not eating starchy carbs for breakfast?
I don't see the logic in eating stuff so high in carbs and very low in fat and protein. We need fat and protein for so many metabolic processes, but we don't need the carbs at all.
I used to do it too, but not these days.
All the best,
Fergus
I don't see the logic in eating stuff so high in carbs and very low in fat and protein. We need fat and protein for so many metabolic processes, but we don't need the carbs at all.
I used to do it too, but not these days.
All the best,
Fergus
Well, I am just happy to get my blood sugars down at the mo',fergusc.
I've had real problems lately keeping good control but it has been noticeable that Weetaflakes for one reason or another give me good low readings.I thought that was what I was supposed to strive for?
I've not ruled out trying a low-carb diet but I've found it hard enough cutting out Cadbury's Fruit & Nut and Danish Pastries, without cutting out fresh, crusty, seeded bread and tasty potatoes!!
I don't drink. I don't smoke.I'm not fat.BUT... I've always enjoyed my food.I'm a comfort eater.I wish I wasn't but without going into details,I find it very hard to cope with the stresses my family has to deal with, without enjoying my food.On the whole I eat a well-balanced diet and I haven't had time in recent weeks to properly research this low-carb alternative approach to diabetes. I will look into it but for now I'll settle for low BG readings and I just thought others not following low-carbs might like to give Weetaflakes a go.
I've had real problems lately keeping good control but it has been noticeable that Weetaflakes for one reason or another give me good low readings.I thought that was what I was supposed to strive for?
I've not ruled out trying a low-carb diet but I've found it hard enough cutting out Cadbury's Fruit & Nut and Danish Pastries, without cutting out fresh, crusty, seeded bread and tasty potatoes!!
I don't drink. I don't smoke.I'm not fat.BUT... I've always enjoyed my food.I'm a comfort eater.I wish I wasn't but without going into details,I find it very hard to cope with the stresses my family has to deal with, without enjoying my food.On the whole I eat a well-balanced diet and I haven't had time in recent weeks to properly research this low-carb alternative approach to diabetes. I will look into it but for now I'll settle for low BG readings and I just thought others not following low-carbs might like to give Weetaflakes a go.
Sorry, chocaholic, I didn't mean to come over all preachy!
You're quite right that good control is the most important thing and I'm glad you're getting good numbers.
My point was that good numbers are so much easier to achieve when we restrict the carbohydrates. Less insulin, fewer hypos, less hunger, stable blood sugars and, crucially, delicious healthy natural food.
All the best,
Fergus
You're quite right that good control is the most important thing and I'm glad you're getting good numbers.
My point was that good numbers are so much easier to achieve when we restrict the carbohydrates. Less insulin, fewer hypos, less hunger, stable blood sugars and, crucially, delicious healthy natural food.
All the best,
Fergus
Fergus,I am open to suggestion, so just wondered if you can give me a few tips for low-carb "treats". Please don't say nuts because my teeth can't tackle really hard foods.Any other ideas gratefully received.Ta.
Hey chocaholic,
What, not even macadamias? That's a top nut.
I'm type 1 so I don't do snacks at all if that's what you mean. Otherwise, every meal's a treat! I'll happily tell you what I eat if that helps, and there are lots of low carb recipe web sites too. Have a glass or two of red wine while you're surfing!
All the best,
Fergus
What, not even macadamias? That's a top nut.
I'm type 1 so I don't do snacks at all if that's what you mean. Otherwise, every meal's a treat! I'll happily tell you what I eat if that helps, and there are lots of low carb recipe web sites too. Have a glass or two of red wine while you're surfing!
All the best,
Fergus
I'll skip the red wine as I don't drink but I've had a quick look online for low-carb recipes and keep finding American baking recipes that use things I've never heard of and sound quite artificial to me. I reckon I'm looking in the wrong places, so will try again later, as I have to nip out soon.
I'm nipping into Julian Graves to find a competition anyway,so will buy some macadamia nuts whilst I'm there. Thanks for the tip off.
If you could give me a rough outline of what you personally eat, Fergus, I am certainly interested in that. I know I read you have eggs and bacon for brekkie.So what do you eat the rest of the day, please? I thought I was doing the right thing at lunchtime by eating a sandwich made with seeded bread, Flora and a healthy filling. Obviously that would not be part of your diet, so how do you stave off those hunger pangs? I'm sure I'd be constantly hungry without a bit of "substance".
N.B. I am Type 2 but on insulin twice a day.
Thanks.
I'm nipping into Julian Graves to find a competition anyway,so will buy some macadamia nuts whilst I'm there. Thanks for the tip off.
If you could give me a rough outline of what you personally eat, Fergus, I am certainly interested in that. I know I read you have eggs and bacon for brekkie.So what do you eat the rest of the day, please? I thought I was doing the right thing at lunchtime by eating a sandwich made with seeded bread, Flora and a healthy filling. Obviously that would not be part of your diet, so how do you stave off those hunger pangs? I'm sure I'd be constantly hungry without a bit of "substance".
N.B. I am Type 2 but on insulin twice a day.
Thanks.
Hi chocaholic,
Jeezo, I'm not holding myself up as a good example of anything! I'm happy to tell you what I eat if it helps though. What I find is that I'm less hungry the fewer carbohydrates I eat. That one biscuit, slice of toast, piece of chocolate doesn't make me feel better for long and certainly doesn't stop me feeling hungry. If I eat natural fats and protein, my appetite doesn't return for hours and I feel better, my blood sugars are normal, and everything's cool.
Lunch today will be a roast chicken breast, mayonnaise, pesto sauce, 100g humous and 3 sticks of celery to scoop it up. 3 units of Humalog the lot and I won't be hungry for hours afterwards.
Tonight it's shepherd's pie, with pureed cauliflower instead of mashed potato topping which makes it very low carb indeed. Right tasty!
All the best,
fergusc
Jeezo, I'm not holding myself up as a good example of anything! I'm happy to tell you what I eat if it helps though. What I find is that I'm less hungry the fewer carbohydrates I eat. That one biscuit, slice of toast, piece of chocolate doesn't make me feel better for long and certainly doesn't stop me feeling hungry. If I eat natural fats and protein, my appetite doesn't return for hours and I feel better, my blood sugars are normal, and everything's cool.
Lunch today will be a roast chicken breast, mayonnaise, pesto sauce, 100g humous and 3 sticks of celery to scoop it up. 3 units of Humalog the lot and I won't be hungry for hours afterwards.
Tonight it's shepherd's pie, with pureed cauliflower instead of mashed potato topping which makes it very low carb indeed. Right tasty!
All the best,
fergusc
Bloomin' heck, Fergus. Just bought the macadamias but you didn't warn me I'd need a second mortgage to pay for them!!!![:0]
Julian Graves have a special offer on at the mo'.......buy a bag of exceedingly expensive macadamias and get a bag of chocolate-covered macadamias free. And there was me trying to steer clear of the chocolate! Couldn't NOT get the freebies, so hubby will get those...to eat out of my sight!
I LOVE the sound of the shepherd's pie with a cauliflower topping. That's right up my street and I'll def. be trying that one.Do you add anything else to the cauli or just puree it on its own? Thanks for the advice. I'm always willing to try new recipes.
Julian Graves have a special offer on at the mo'.......buy a bag of exceedingly expensive macadamias and get a bag of chocolate-covered macadamias free. And there was me trying to steer clear of the chocolate! Couldn't NOT get the freebies, so hubby will get those...to eat out of my sight!
I LOVE the sound of the shepherd's pie with a cauliflower topping. That's right up my street and I'll def. be trying that one.Do you add anything else to the cauli or just puree it on its own? Thanks for the advice. I'm always willing to try new recipes.
Hi chocaholic.
Macadamias, eh? Well, I never said I was a cheap date! Actually, Sainsburys do 60g bags at 99p a go which isn't too bad, and about right as a portion size too.
For the shepherds pie, I steam the cauliflower till soft then put it in the blender with a good handful of grated cheese and an egg. It works as a topping for shepherds pie and fish pie too.
The shepherds bit comprises an onion, 2 sticks celery, 2 cloves of garlic, 400g minced lamb, all softened and browned in a pan. Add some tomato puree and some tabasco and worstershire sauce, salt, pepper and thyme. Smooth the cauliflower over the meat in a baking dish, fling it in the oven for half an hour, and Bob's your Uncle.
Bon appetit!
fergusc
Macadamias, eh? Well, I never said I was a cheap date! Actually, Sainsburys do 60g bags at 99p a go which isn't too bad, and about right as a portion size too.
For the shepherds pie, I steam the cauliflower till soft then put it in the blender with a good handful of grated cheese and an egg. It works as a topping for shepherds pie and fish pie too.
The shepherds bit comprises an onion, 2 sticks celery, 2 cloves of garlic, 400g minced lamb, all softened and browned in a pan. Add some tomato puree and some tabasco and worstershire sauce, salt, pepper and thyme. Smooth the cauliflower over the meat in a baking dish, fling it in the oven for half an hour, and Bob's your Uncle.
Bon appetit!
fergusc
Fergus,
You are making my mouth water!
For anyone who isn't keen on the taste of cauli, you could try mashed sweet potato - still highish carbs but less than potato, or use a mix of two thirds mashed cauli and one third mashed celeriac.
You are making my mouth water!
For anyone who isn't keen on the taste of cauli, you could try mashed sweet potato - still highish carbs but less than potato, or use a mix of two thirds mashed cauli and one third mashed celeriac.
Sorry, forgot to mention to fry a good number of chestnut mushrooms in butter and add them to the mince recipe for the shepherds pie - makes all the difference.
Dennis, you're right about celeriac, it makes a fantastic puree too. Grate some nutmeg in there and it's good enough for a Michelin star!
I've done the shepherds pie for lots of friends and not told them what the topping was. Many have said it's the best mashed potato they've had and I haven't had the heart to tell them the truth!
All the best,
fergusc
Dennis, you're right about celeriac, it makes a fantastic puree too. Grate some nutmeg in there and it's good enough for a Michelin star!
I've done the shepherds pie for lots of friends and not told them what the topping was. Many have said it's the best mashed potato they've had and I haven't had the heart to tell them the truth!
All the best,
fergusc
I always start the day with one weetabix and cinnamon,very tasty.Tried shredded wheat,Blahhhhhhhhhhh,Like a half tumbler of tropicana tropical as well.keeps me going till lunch time.
Knowledge is the key to control
Knowledge is the key to control
mmmmmmmmmm
This is getting exciting
Fergus I love you,I really do!
Im watching my carbs and kind of doing the opposite of what my nutritionist told me!
Before tea tonight I have had some emental cheese and red wine and flatlined at 4.6 which is a milestone for me! and im not due my injection until 8pm!!! It works!!!
As for me I am a very very lucky devil, I own and run a wholesale fruit business and have done so for 11 years and can get all those lovely macadamias trade price, and i love celariac anyway(don't want to advertise that i can get macadamias very cheap here as then i will look like a trader on the diabetes site) but maybe in future i can pull some strings (because im a fellow diabetic) and give them out trade price) (as long as (postage is paid) then who knows.
Thats my fav nut always has been
Anyway,
Thanks fergus,
You have been such a help to me and i bet a lot of people here,I have been doing eveything my diatician says and not doing very well! high carbs? hmmm now im starting to understand!
I know theres fats to consider but for now i really need to control my bs and living withough wholemeal and pasta is working!
stephen
ps.
I love red wine
This is getting exciting
Fergus I love you,I really do!
Im watching my carbs and kind of doing the opposite of what my nutritionist told me!
Before tea tonight I have had some emental cheese and red wine and flatlined at 4.6 which is a milestone for me! and im not due my injection until 8pm!!!
It works!!!As for me I am a very very lucky devil, I own and run a wholesale fruit business and have done so for 11 years and can get all those lovely macadamias trade price, and i love celariac anyway(don't want to advertise that i can get macadamias very cheap here as then i will look like a trader on the diabetes site) but maybe in future i can pull some strings (because im a fellow diabetic) and give them out trade price) (as long as (postage is paid) then who knows.
Thats my fav nut always has been
Anyway,
Thanks fergus,
You have been such a help to me and i bet a lot of people here,I have been doing eveything my diatician says and not doing very well! high carbs? hmmm now im starting to understand!
I know theres fats to consider but for now i really need to control my bs and living withough wholemeal and pasta is working!
stephen
ps.
I love red wine
Hey SfS, you're very welcome. A couple of kilos of macadamias and we'll call it quits!
Seriously, I've yet to meet a dietician who has a Scooby Doo about what constitutes a healthy diet for diabetics. They advise a diet that's completely inappropriate and is more likely to exacerbate the condition. I have some sympathy for them actually because they are just towing the party line and don't have the authority to go beyond it. I bet you won't find a t2 diabetic anywhere in the world who has been able to reduce or stop their medication on their eating plan. I know of many who have achieved it on a low carb diet, and lost weight and improved their cardiac risk factors at the same time.
We have to look after ourselves then.
All the best,
fergusc
Seriously, I've yet to meet a dietician who has a Scooby Doo about what constitutes a healthy diet for diabetics. They advise a diet that's completely inappropriate and is more likely to exacerbate the condition. I have some sympathy for them actually because they are just towing the party line and don't have the authority to go beyond it. I bet you won't find a t2 diabetic anywhere in the world who has been able to reduce or stop their medication on their eating plan. I know of many who have achieved it on a low carb diet, and lost weight and improved their cardiac risk factors at the same time.
We have to look after ourselves then.
All the best,
fergusc
Hi Fergus,
Im dreaming of macadamias in my sleepLove them.
Yeah,Thats the whole point!I was diagnosed origionally with type 2 and put onto metformin, was told to eat pleanty of pasta and potatoes and stay away from cheese and stuffs like that, not having a clue at the time and following thier advise, I definatly felt worse and was worrying myself sick about my blood sugars being high,I was told to exercise even more, 1 i live in sunny scotland and 2 i work very long hours and do lifting and humphing all day long so how much more exercise do i do!!!, I was put on avandamet and it made me worse and then on even stronger avandamet which contains that lovely rosiglitazone stuff, and thankfully now metformin and novomix insulin, since i have really looked into food and your advice i have never been so stable! just tested at 5.1
Late last night i did another experiment, had 2 small glasses of wine and an entire block of emmental cheese, before it i was at 6 and 2 hours later i checked i was at 6.1.
So my point is,
Do i die eventually like a normal person eating cheese and drinking a moderation of red wine? or do i high carb everything and die of high blood sugars?
I know which one i choose
PS.Your celariac sheperds pie is gorgeous,you really do deserve a michelin award!
I know there is risks eating cheese and stuff but at the end of the day i am looking for good levels in my glucose and wow! i have lots of energy!
This must be healthy compare to someone eating burger kings,chips and all the **** of the day,i really hope my diabetic nurse gives me a pat on the back next time i see her because im going to tell her that i have eaten the "fergus way" and tell her to put that in her pipe and smoke it
I have been staying off cheese for ages and things like this in fear that it will affect me(duh!)i must be really dumb.
And i really feel as if im getting my life back again!
If i was in charge of this site i would definatly make your post a sticky, everyone ought to try this out if they are having difficulty, especially type 2s.
kindest regards and thankyou once again
stephen
Im dreaming of macadamias in my sleep
Love them.Yeah,Thats the whole point!I was diagnosed origionally with type 2 and put onto metformin, was told to eat pleanty of pasta and potatoes and stay away from cheese and stuffs like that, not having a clue at the time and following thier advise, I definatly felt worse and was worrying myself sick about my blood sugars being high,I was told to exercise even more, 1 i live in sunny scotland and 2 i work very long hours and do lifting and humphing all day long so how much more exercise do i do!!!, I was put on avandamet and it made me worse and then on even stronger avandamet which contains that lovely rosiglitazone stuff, and thankfully now metformin and novomix insulin, since i have really looked into food and your advice i have never been so stable! just tested at 5.1
Late last night i did another experiment, had 2 small glasses of wine and an entire block of emmental cheese, before it i was at 6 and 2 hours later i checked i was at 6.1
.So my point is,
Do i die eventually like a normal person eating cheese and drinking a moderation of red wine? or do i high carb everything and die of high blood sugars?
I know which one i choose
PS.Your celariac sheperds pie is gorgeous,you really do deserve a michelin award!
I know there is risks eating cheese and stuff but at the end of the day i am looking for good levels in my glucose and wow! i have lots of energy!
This must be healthy compare to someone eating burger kings,chips and all the **** of the day,i really hope my diabetic nurse gives me a pat on the back next time i see her because im going to tell her that i have eaten the "fergus way"
and tell her to put that in her pipe and smoke itI have been staying off cheese for ages and things like this in fear that it will affect me(duh!)i must be really dumb.
And i really feel as if im getting my life back again!
If i was in charge of this site i would definatly make your post a sticky, everyone ought to try this out if they are having difficulty, especially type 2s.
kindest regards and thankyou once again
stephen
Hey Stephen,
I'm thrilled skinny that you're having good numbers straight away!
As you say, the NHS dieticians will always tell us to eat those starchy carbs. If only one of them was diabetic they'd pretty quickly realise what a load of twaddle that is. Base your diet on the food group that screws blood sugars up the most? Genius!
There is no rational reason for this other than the now discredited idea that dietary fat is responsible for obesity and heart disease.
It isn't, but I think most of those who thought it was will have to admit their mistake (unlikely) or simply die off!
Thousands here, in the US, and in mainland Europe are finding that a low carb diet normalises blood sugars, asissts weight loss and improves cardiac risk factors into the bargain.
So, Stephen, you're certainly not dumb! Like a lot of diabetics, you've just been very badly advised for far too long.
I can point you in the direction of some fantastic books and articles which deal with the low carb principles in great detail. Just say the word!
All the best mate,
fergus
I'm thrilled skinny that you're having good numbers straight away!
As you say, the NHS dieticians will always tell us to eat those starchy carbs. If only one of them was diabetic they'd pretty quickly realise what a load of twaddle that is. Base your diet on the food group that screws blood sugars up the most? Genius!
There is no rational reason for this other than the now discredited idea that dietary fat is responsible for obesity and heart disease.
It isn't, but I think most of those who thought it was will have to admit their mistake (unlikely) or simply die off!
Thousands here, in the US, and in mainland Europe are finding that a low carb diet normalises blood sugars, asissts weight loss and improves cardiac risk factors into the bargain.
So, Stephen, you're certainly not dumb! Like a lot of diabetics, you've just been very badly advised for far too long.
I can point you in the direction of some fantastic books and articles which deal with the low carb principles in great detail. Just say the word!
All the best mate,
fergus
I gave the cauliflower topped Shepherds Pie a go tonight too. Hubby said it tasted great and as I had all the ingredients to hand it was no bother switching from a potato topping. Going to check my reading in a mo'and I don't actully feel hungry tonight.Hmm.I'm impressed.
After taking a reading tonight, I'm even more impressed. 6.00 [:0]I just don't get readings like that normally after a main meal. It's early days but Fergus, I take my hat off to you. I'm off to the bookshops tomorrow to get some low carb recipe books. I love cooking and have over 90 cookbooks but I feel a few more can't hurt!!!
After taking a reading tonight, I'm even more impressed. 6.00 [:0]I just don't get readings like that normally after a main meal. It's early days but Fergus, I take my hat off to you. I'm off to the bookshops tomorrow to get some low carb recipe books. I love cooking and have over 90 cookbooks but I feel a few more can't hurt!!!
Fergus,
I think the guy who first "proved" that a high fat diet is bad for us is long gone. It was a Russian scientist around 1911 (whose name escapes me) who experimented by feeding his laboratory rabbits on a diet of meat with a high fat content. All the rabbits died of heart disease, thus proving that a high fat meat diet will kill us.
For more than 50 years his work was forgotten, but someone dug it up in the 60s or 70s and it has been the basis of all the 'saturated fat is bad for you' theories since then.
I have one real problem with the research. When did you last come across a carnivorous rabbit? They are strictly vegetarian animals with metabolisms that would be totally unable to cope with meat, whether high in saturated fat or not!
I think the guy who first "proved" that a high fat diet is bad for us is long gone. It was a Russian scientist around 1911 (whose name escapes me) who experimented by feeding his laboratory rabbits on a diet of meat with a high fat content. All the rabbits died of heart disease, thus proving that a high fat meat diet will kill us.
For more than 50 years his work was forgotten, but someone dug it up in the 60s or 70s and it has been the basis of all the 'saturated fat is bad for you' theories since then.
I have one real problem with the research. When did you last come across a carnivorous rabbit? They are strictly vegetarian animals with metabolisms that would be totally unable to cope with meat, whether high in saturated fat or not!
