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Weight Loss No More

Lezils

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi guys wonder if you can help, I’m on metformin, started low carb in June and fairly quickly lost 16lbs, then I got a really bad cold and laryngitis and even though I stuck to plan put on 7lbs. I’ve been better for about 3 weeks, but the weight hasn’t come off again, even tho my numbers at home are down to 5.7? A girl in work is doing slimming world and is getting good results, do you think I could adapt it? Thanks
 
People often see a stall or even a series of stalls whilst trying to lose weight. The infection may have added an affect to this. If you could tell us how many carbs you have been having and a typical day's menu perhaps we could help you to tweak things.

Going low carb and low calorie would be iffy, in my opinion. We need the calorie rich fats to offset those calories we lose from lower carbs. As ww/sw are mainly reliant on calorie deficits this would, I feel, lead to hunger and lethargy.
 
Some of your initial weight loss may have been loss of fluid retention- if you’ve since been unwell and looking after yourself you’ll have kept yourself hydrated and you should continue to.
The BG shows the diet is working- be patient re weight.
 
Thanks all, I don’t really count, typically have just coffee and cream for breakfast occasionally scrambled eggs, lunch is usually smoked salmon, tuna mayo or pastrami with salad and olive oil dressing, dinner is chicken and veg or stir fry, never snack usually not hungry enough but I like a few glasses of red wine a week. I’m pleased my numbers are down, I’ll maybe do a count for a week and see how that goes
 
I have no idea how much weight you have to lose but if it isn't a huge amount then it will probably come on in fits and starts.. I had a lot to lose and lost the first chunk quickly.. it then staled o I had to mix up my regime and introduced some extended fasts which kick started the weight loss again. I have now been stalled for about 18 months so am trying one meal a day carnivore to see if that can assist.. nothing spectacular so far but the scales are diminishing a bit and oddly I feel more muscles..

I also have a fairly low opinion of "slimming" clubs as it seems to be a repeat business.. they help you to lose weight with caloric restriction thus leading to possible metabolic slow down then leave you to put the weight back on and are then there to sign you up again for next time..
 
My metabolism had to climb out of a very deep hole once I began eating low carb again - most of my weightloss seems to have happened after I was getting under 8 mmol/l after meals - but being one of those people who hardly seems to be ill I have not got any experience of how that might affect results.
I would suggest taking a gentle approach to how you treat your body though - diabetes seems to affect all aspects of life and it seems better to go along as you feel is best, not be trying to push yourself into expending energy you might feel you do not have. I'm not saying that it is OK to be idle - I just remember working with people who would stay late after work struggling to get things done and looking askance at me for going home to eat a proper meal and get a good night's sleep - then I'd go in early next morning and get four hours work done before they turned up looking down and dismal - I am insufferably cheerful in the mornings.
 
I have no idea how much weight you have to lose but if it isn't a huge amount then it will probably come on in fits and starts.. I had a lot to lose and lost the first chunk quickly.. it then staled o I had to mix up my regime and introduced some extended fasts which kick started the weight loss again. I have now been stalled for about 18 months so am trying one meal a day carnivore to see if that can assist.. nothing spectacular so far but the scales are diminishing a bit and oddly I feel more muscles..

I also have a fairly low opinion of "slimming" clubs as it seems to be a repeat business.. they help you to lose weight with caloric restriction thus leading to possible metabolic slow down then leave you to put the weight back on and are then there to sign you up again for next time..
Yes, I have about 7 stone to lose!
 
Yes, I have about 7 stone to lose!
Hi @Lezils welcome to the group, have you received @daisy1 's welcome pack? Could you give us some more info re HbA1c, meds your on etc. What were your Bg levels like when you were doing LCHF before? Have you thought about adding fasting to your LCHF? Sorry for all the questions but the info will help members with what help, advice and support to give you to help you on your journey. Please only answer what you are comfortable with.:)
 
I would add that you are better off focussing on your fat loss rather than loss of mass (the scales). Measure your waist to get the best indicator of metabolic health aiming for a waist size (smallest part of torso below your rib cage and above your hips usually indicated by the belly button).
And steer clear of Slimming World which is higher carb and low fat so not ideal for type 2s. The girl at work may well get results initially depending on her previous diet (but check out the returners/life long members who keep falling off that waggon and getting back on again). If you are keen to improve your metabolism then you are already winning by getting your blood sugars down and some slower paced fat loss should ensure. The problem is tat we tend to expect the standard 2lb per week loss; if given a choice between eating well and curing diabetes with gradual and sustainable weight loss would this not trump rapid weight loss, hunger and likely regain of weight and diabetes? Play the long game and don't panic if there is not linear progression in your efforts to shift fat.
Going forward I would recommend the article on this topic on DietDoctor re tips on breaking through a stall in weight loss for older women. It does not recommend just eating less and less!
 
Can’t thank you all enough for your help, I’m going to persevere with this woe, I’m chuffed with my bloods, so is my DN. I have a lot of weight to lose, but I need to be in it for the long haul. I feel so much better eating low carb, I’ll keep you updated
 
@Lezils

Hello Lezils and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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