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superlec

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Hi
I would like to introduce myself, I am a 67 yr old man who as only been tested and found to have type 2 Dia. Sorry for the delay in posting a intoduction but i have found this very hard to accept,hence(Wham Bam) My other problem is O/Arth so i wonder if any body as this complaint ,and how they cope along with Dia. My Doctor as put me on diet only for one month but as made it quite clear the next step will be medication if no inprovement is made. I blame my self for this having a sweet tooth especially for Mars Bars i guess Mars will have a drop in profits now.
I will sign off now and wish you all well. Superlec.
 
Hi Superlec and welcome to the forum :) Someone who has O/A with diabetes will soon see this and talk about it with you. If you can keep off the medication by improving your diet (no more Mars Bars!) that would be the best way to keep your diabetes under control and give some advice on how to get a test kit if you haven't already been given/got one.

The former Monitors have written this basic information for new members. This should help you with your diet and show you why testing is important - you don't say that you have been doing this. Ask as many questions as you like as someone will always be pleased to help.

Here is the advice that Ken and I, as Forum Monitors, usually give to newly diagnosed Diabetics. We hope that these few ideas gained through experience help you to gain control and give you some understanding of Diabetes. This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different.

It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.

For more information on CARBOHYDRATE see here:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20306

This is NOT a low carb diet suggestion, just a reduction in your intake of carbohydrate. You have to decide yourself how much of a reduction will keep your blood glucose levels in control.

The main carbs to avoid OR reduce are the complex or starchy carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, starchy root veg and also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.

If you are on Insulin you may find that reducing the carb intake also means that you can reduce your dose of insulin. This can help you to keep weight gain down as Insulin tends to make you put on weight and eventually cause insulin resistance. This should be done slowly so as not to cause hypos.

The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating, then two hours after eating, you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels. Some foods, which are slow acting carbohydrates, are absorbed more slowly so you may need to test three or even four hours later to see the effect that these have on your blood glucose levels.

Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.

When you are buying products check the total carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a diabetic.


As for a tester, try asking the nurse/doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work ! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try!!

For TIPS FOR STRIPS see here:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=19002#p173253

If you are an Insulin user in theory you should have no problem getting test strips.

The latest 2011 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking and before meals).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l...(Type 1 & 2)
2 hrs after meals........................no more than 8.5 mmol/l.....( Type 2)

2hrs after meals......................... no more than 9 mmol/l ......(Type 1)

If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.

It also helps if you can do at least 30 minutes moderate exercise a day, it can be split into 10 min sessions to start with. It doesn't have to be strenuous.

The above is just general advice and it is recommended that you discuss with your HCP before making any changes. You can also ask questions on the forum on anything that is not clear.

Finally a few QUESTIONS TO ASK AT DIABETES CLINIC.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17091



Sue/Ken.
 
Your Mars bars remind me of my father. he was in a residential home miles from anywhere
suffering from short term memeory loss.
Somehow he managed o find a wholesalers , and persuaded hem to sell him Mars bars.
he had never had a sweet tooth.
The staff in the home never knew where he had gone and it took many months for them to discover his secre store.
At the same ime he began to say he hadn't been given anything to eat although he had eaten less than an hour before,
Of course, it was diabetes . He had been old he had diabetes several years before but it had never reqquired medication . he had always eaten sparingly and was fond of walking. I think his problems began when his exercise had to be curtailed . This was when the hunger pangs began
As many others have said you may be eating this way because you are diabetic and not vice versa.
Mant t2 s find that ust one metformin together with diet and exercise keeps it under very good control. so if you had o do that it wouldn't be the end of he world.
If you follow the advice gibven above you will see a rapid improvemen wihinhn a short timeand
may never need anything else. I wouldn't necessarily reject all medication on principle. You may have been diabeic for some ime and many medications have a beneficial and protective effect.

If you follow the dietary advice given you may not even miss the Mars bars.
 
Unbeliever said:
If you follow the dietary advice given you may not even miss the Mars bars.
Hi again superlec :)
I have found since cutting my carbs drastically, that my appetite has reduced considerably and I just don't fancy sweet things, like chocolate for example, any more so perhaps you will find this too.
 
Hi superlec and welcome to the forum, your in good company regards feeling in denial as it is an extremely common emotion following diagnosis, It didnt happen to me but I was diagnosed with very high bg levels so there was no doubt, there have been occasions though since getting it all under control when I have wondered if I am really diabetic but I only have to eat a slice of crusty white bread to remind myself as my blood glucose (bg) levels soar into double figures when I eat white bread.

Dont be blaming yourself for becoming diabetic as the reasons for it are not fully understood and whilst being overweight can be a contributing factor eating lots of sugar or being overweight does not make you diabetic on its own. Genetics may play a part as may viral infections or hormonal imbalances. As I said no has the definitive answer or a cure just yet.

I have what I was told was degenerative arthritis of the lower spine (spondilitis) which I imagine is a form of osteoarthritis as its in the bone, it gives me occasional back pain and continual leg pain, similar to sciatic pain but the pain can be anywhere from my big toe to my thigh/groin area. To be honest I find living with arthritis much worse than living with diabetes but I would add that I am well controlled at present by diet and metformin. I dont manage to get much exercise because of my arthritis but I do try to walk my dog whenever I can.

Any questions you may have just ask
 
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