notafanofsugar
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It all seems disjointed and I think mixed messages from Government havent helped. Not quite sure what position we will be in in a few months time but it's hard to be optimistic. I'm just trying to stay healthy and ensure have supply of basics. I'm taking a vitamin D supplement. Dont know how helpful it will be but nails have never been in such good condition!Hi everyone - my area is under a second lockdown but I see people walking around not wearing masks and on the bus I was the recipient of some very rude language for talking about why we should we be wearing masks. I'm really worried about what could happen this winter. What has been your experience? I'm trying to get as much vitamin D as possible before winter!
I'm only worried in so far that a lockdown'd be a necessary step. If things get that bad, it's pretty bad indeed. Here in the Netherlands things are rapidly going south, mixed messages from a spineless government that does no practising what it preaches, no-one wanting to comply and whatnot... It's "just a cold", after all. Sheesh. I fear for my family, as well as my friends here and abroad. And my own hide. I'm bummed about probably not seeing my branch of the family over Christmas, especially since some aunts and uncles are getting on in years and might not be with us much longer. I haven't seen any of them all year.Hi everyone - my area is under a second lockdown but I see people walking around not wearing masks and on the bus I was the recipient of some very rude language for talking about why we should we be wearing masks. I'm really worried about what could happen this winter. What has been your experience? I'm trying to get as much vitamin D as possible before winter!
Your death figures (NL) have been in single figures since mid June according to Worldometer..are things really getting that bad?Here in the Netherlands things are rapidly going south,
Netherlands case numbers are rising but again if we track them forward that is not translating into deaths or presumably hospitalisations.Your death figures (NL) have been in single figures since mid June according to Worldometer..are things really getting that bad?
Jo - 2 deaths (15th Sept)with Covid -
https://www.google.com/search?q=cov....69i57j0l7.5019j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
What are hospitalisation numbers doing?
Your death figures (NL) have been in single figures since mid June according to Worldometer..are things really getting that bad?
What are hospitalisation numbers doing?
Out of interest i googled the case fatality rate for typhoid fever and its 10-30% ! Stunningly more lethal than this although both are tricky to measure if you don't know how may are infected due to all those alleged 'super spreaders'.https://coronadashboard.government.nl/ gives you the relevant numbers. I'm currently in a phase 2 area.
Most people who catch it now are students. It's spreading rather rapidly in student housing in the big cities (Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Utrecht etc), and especially when the introduction weeks started and there was plenty of booze and a lot of no-distance-observing. These people don't get as sick as the more vulnerable ones, but as their numbers rise, well... In three weeks, if things don't change, we'll be looking at 10.000 cases diagnosed a day. Not that the labs can keep up, as it is. (Mind you, there's 17 million people in the Netherlands. We're small.). So while infections are up, hospitalisations and deaths aren't as bad as they were at the beginning of the outbreak, as that included a lot of care homes and such, where deaths were frequent. Those people are mostly still fairly shielded now. The odds those students infect others though... They don't seem to exactly care, as they don't get as sick, as a rule. Never mind their (grand-) parents and other family members, or people at a super market, or... You get the idea. It's spreading amongst the Typhoid Mary's right now. the ones that don't get hospitalised but happily spread it everywhere. They won't get much harm from it. Others, however, will, if numbers continue to rise as they are. Basically, people are idiots. "I can't go to school because I had a corona test and don't have the results yet, so I'm hitting the town this afternoon for lunch with mum and some fun!", was one of the posts online that went viral. That's the level of idiocy we have to deal with here. (And really, these are the people smart enough to go to university?!)
I am bad with numbers. I'm really good with anxiety though.
Jo
So while infections are up,
I don't know what to go with. Like I said, I'm horrible with numbers and indeed, reports differ all the time. We're either perfectly okay, or we're seriously not. All I know? Our Prime Minister usually holds his talks on Tuesday, but things got so alarming (his words!) he held a press conference last night, because he felt he couldn't wait a few more days. That's.... Troubling. The Dutch aren't particularly welcome in Denmark, Belgium and Germany any more either (though some go for provinces rather than the entire country). I dunno. Only thing I can do right now is just hang on to those masks and have my little disinfectant bottle topped up. And try not to do anything stupid.Please remember that these are "positive test results" not necessarily "infections".
Hospitalisations and deaths are the important figures to worry about and monitor.
If the NL is anywhere near as bad at reporting as the UK then the news will be full of "escalating cases" rather than increases in positive tests. There is a great deal of debate here as to the accuracy of the testing that is being carried out here and what people are in fact being shown to be "positive" with.
We haven’t seen ours since a month before the March lockdown. I do wonder how much taller than me they’ll be by the time we see them again. Also miss them!Haven't come out of the first one yet my wife has autoimmune problems. To many covidiots about to risk much socialising.
Miss the grandchildren and we had a lot planned for this year.
There was an outbreak of Typhoid when we were in W Africa. I remember walking past a typhoid fatality on blanket covered pallet when visiting a doctor friend for advice. There’s a vaccine for typhoid, but the poor people who were filling the wards, and dying, didn’t have access to it. I suppose that kind of experience is one of the reasons I take Covid seriously.Out of interest i googled the case fatality rate for typhoid fever and its 10-30% ! Stunningly more lethal than this although both are tricky to measure if you don't know how may are infected due to all those alleged 'super spreaders'.
Hey and good luck. I am not planning on going to a rave either. Just hand washing for me.I don't know what to go with. Like I said, I'm horrible with numbers and indeed, reports differ all the time. We're either perfectly okay, or we're seriously not. All I know? Our Prime Minister usually holds his talks on Tuesday, but things got so alarming (his words!) he held a press conference last night, because he felt he couldn't wait a few more days. That's.... Troubling. The Dutch aren't particularly welcome in Denmark, Belgium and Germany any more either (though some go for provinces rather than the entire country). I dunno. Only thing I can do right now is just hang on to those masks and have my little disinfectant bottle topped up. And try not to do anything stupid.
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